Why Giuliani is Unqualified to be Prez

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian


Sure. But we're discussing a specific issue here, and it makes things easier if we consider the gas tax in a vacuum.

-Arrian

AAHZ, doesn't necessarily like to give corporations free money.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian


Your individual situation isn't really relevant to that point. Neither is mine.

LotM gets it. Hence his provision for a tax cut/credit for the poor.

-Arrian

I don't disagree with credits for the poor.

[Arrian]

A gas tax is indeed a regressive tax. Your response was "no it's not, 'cause I don't own a 2 ton."

Perhaps you meant "I don't care because I don't own a 2 ton." It's still a regressive tax regardless of what vehicle you own (or if you own none).

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian
A gas tax is indeed a regressive tax. Your response was "no it's not, 'cause I don't own a 2 ton."

Perhaps you meant "I don't care because I don't own a 2 ton." It's still a regressive tax regardless of what vehicle you own (or if you own none).

-Arrian

On an individual basis yes. I was just pointing out that the wealthier you are the more you might use gasoline.

[Arrian]

A gas tax might impact a lower % of the the poor vs the rich, but those poor it impacts it will do substantial harm to, whereas the rich can take it. Ergo, regressive tax.

-Arrian

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, but as a percentage of income it is far less the wealthier you are.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Kidicious


On an individual basis yes. I was just pointing out that the wealthier you are the more you might use gasoline.

Urban poor are much likelier to not own cars. Rural poor probably use not that much less gasoline than rural wealthy, and its a much bigger part of their income. More or less ditto for suburbia.

[Ecthy]

I don't receive replies for my ME plan

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
so make it rev neutral by using the funds to cut SS taxes on the poor and expand the EITC.

What do you do with the money that would be used to fund highways or the state gas taxes?

[Arrian]

You received one, from me. But yes, you're right, you didn't receive replies, plural.

-Arrian

[Ecthy]

I read yours Arrian, thanks

I have an irrational need to receive more replies.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ecthy
I don't receive replies for my ME plan

Here's a cookie, MrFun.

[Ecthy]

So why do you think such a state would be a dangerous partner? Perfect counterweight to Iran!

I did the math, the two would about equal in GDP!

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
What do you do with the money that would be used to fund highways or the state gas taxes?

You leave those exactly as they are currently. This is conceptually a seperate tax, even if for convenience its administered jointly (and it might not be for several reasons) The debate about how much to invest in transport infras, and how to finance it,really ought to not be confused with the q of how to impact oil consumption.

[DinoDoc]

I don't really see the point of discussing it in a vaccum if we are talking about raising gas taxes (a tax ostensibly used to fund highway projects) and using that money to fund other things.