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  • Originally posted by BeBro


    We're talking about totalitarian stuff. Politicians/leaders not telling always the truth (or, if you're cynical enough, hardly ever tell the truth) happens everywhere, in various political systems. If that's totalitarian then we pretty much only know totalitarian systems, which makes the category kindy meaningless.

    The point is that it's less democratic when the voters are stupid and they vote for liars or don't vote at all. That's what DeT was talking about.
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    • But that is not OB's point. He used the quote to support his view which is about totalitarianism, not some shortcomings, problems or failures of democracy.
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      • I can't open this brochure, but judging on lotm's summaries, what are You suprised with? Haven't You read Serb's posts?
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        • Originally posted by Kidicious



          The point is that it's less democratic when the voters are stupid and they vote for liars or don't vote at all. That's what DeT was talking about.
          The fact that you are free to have your silly views, and can freely post them, or, say, have a political rally, is a strong proof of your nation's democracy. Even if you are the only one who 'sees the light' - you are free to express this.

          This does not compare to Russia, where people who go on rallies are arrested and beaten up by police.

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          • Troll thread for Serb. He hasn't taken the bait yet.

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            • Originally posted by VJ
              Troll thread for Serb
              True, but only to some extent. These guys are not an independent movement, they're gov't sanctioned and financed. I'd be cool if they were genuine self financed Lord God worshippers.
              Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
              Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
              Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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              • Originally posted by Sirotnikov


                The fact that you are free to have your silly views, and can freely post them, or, say, have a political rally, is a strong proof of your nation's democracy. Even if you are the only one who 'sees the light' - you are free to express this.

                This does not compare to Russia, where people who go on rallies are arrested and beaten up by police.
                Ukraine, Georgia, Estonia, France goddamnit.

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                • Originally posted by Saras


                  True, but only to some extent. These guys are not an independent movement, they're gov't sanctioned and financed.
                  And you can easily prove it, right?
                  Maybe nazbols are government financed too?

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                  • Originally posted by Sirotnikov


                    The fact that you are free to have your silly views, and can freely post them, or, say, have a political rally, is a strong proof of your nation's democracy. Even if you are the only one who 'sees the light' - you are free to express this.

                    This does not compare to Russia, where people who go on rallies are arrested and beaten up by police.
                    Wrong. Freedom of speech is that last right they need to take away when everyone believes their lies. They don't have to worry because they can just put their spin on whatever you say or simply say its a matter or national security, they have a duty to protect us, blah blah blah.
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                    • Originally posted by Serb
                      And you can easily prove it, right?
                      If I was running Nashi and was as good as KGB is at deception, there'd be deniability more perfect that that for a fact that you're a camel.

                      Maybe nazbols are government financed too?
                      probably not
                      Last edited by Saras; May 18, 2007, 02:28.
                      Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                      Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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                      • dp
                        Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                        Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                        Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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                        • Estonia > Russia x infinity

                          Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                          Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                          Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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                          • Really? Good for them.

                            Btw, WhatTF and WhereTF is Estonia?
                            Last edited by Serb; May 18, 2007, 04:13.

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                            • Originally posted by Serb
                              Really? Good for them.

                              Btw, WhatTF and WhereTF is Estonia?
                              Does Russian education suck so much that you don't even know the parts of your decrepit Motherland's former empire?
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                              • Yeah, I forgot that Americans are well-known for their geography skills.


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