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Originally posted by Jon Miller
See, I think that even if I disagree strongly with a position, that the people who hold it have the right to be heard, even abortion supporters, which on my list share a similar level of distaste as the Religious Right...
People should be convinced in a democracy, not made to be quiet.
Jon Miller
I never said he should have been 'made to be quiet'. I just said he's going to Hell for it.
Just as KKK members can march up and down the street all they want, they are still ******.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Lol, some people over at DU are simply besides themselves with grief. Not over Falwell's passing, but over the fact that not everyone thinks he deserves at least some respect in death, that some are genuinely happy that he's dead. Oh noes, won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?
Naturally, they conveniently forget that unless "the children" were of his brand of True Christianity(tm), Falwell hated those children too, was convinced they were godless heathens and were bound for Hell. The man was a vile, vile creature and the world would be well-served by others like him just up and dying en masse. Of course, that'd be hoping for too much, so I'll settle for the good news of one of his ilk dying every now and then.
The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.
Originally posted by SlowwHand
Why is this a gay thing more than a jewish thing?
He also said the Antichrist was already among us, and was a Jewish male.
What with Jesus being a Jewish male, oughtn't a proper Antichrist be a gentile woman, anyway?
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Ming, just in case you didn't realise, Drake and I are messing around.
I didn't know you swung that way.
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok
Originally posted by Last Conformist
What with Jesus being a Jewish male, oughtn't a proper Antichrist be a gentile woman, anyway?
Rosie O'Donnel. I'm pretty sure Falwell had her pegged before she zapped him.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Larry Flynt is probably breaking open the champagne as we speak.
Actually, he simply is outclassing most of the folks in this thread.
Larry Flynt On Jerry Falwell: Hustler Lawsuit Revisited On Day Of Rival's Death
LYNCHBURG, Va (May 15, 2007) -- The Rev. Jerry Falwell, the folksy, small-town preacher who used the power of television to found the Moral Majority and turn the Christian right into a mighty force in American politics during the Reagan years, died Tuesday at 73.
One of Falwell's most memorable opponents was Hustler kingpin Larry Flynt, who had a very public legal battle with the Reverend over freedom of speech rights.
At the heart of the case was a satirical ad that ran in Hustler in 1983with the headline "Jerry Falwell Talks About His First Time," in which the magazine described a drunken Falwell having an incestuous encounter with his mother.
Falwell sued Flynt (pictured together on "Larry King Live" in 1997), alleging libel and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
However, the Supreme Court ruled that a public figure could not recover damages over distress based on satire under the umbrella of free speech.
Upon hearing of his death, Flynt released the following statement to Access Hollywood:
"The Reverend Jerry Falwell and I were arch enemies for fifteen years. We became involved in a lawsuit concerning First Amendment rights and Hustler magazine. Without question, this was my most important battle – the l988 Hustler Magazine, Inc., v. Jerry Falwell case, where after millions of dollars and much deliberation, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled in my favor.
My mother always told me that no matter how much you dislike a person, when you meet them face to face you will find characteristics about them that you like. Jerry Falwell was a perfect example of that. I hated everything he stood for, but after meeting him in person, years after the trial, Jerry Falwell and I became good friends. He would visit me in
California and we would debate together on college campuses. I always appreciated his sincerity even though I knew what he was selling and he knew what I was selling.
The most important result of our relationship was the landmark decision from the Supreme Court that made parody protected speech, and the fact that much of what we see on television and hear on the radio today is a direct result of my having won that now famous case which Falwell played such an important role in."
Falwell is survived by his wife, Macel, his two sons and a daughter, Jeannie Falwell Savas. Funeral arrangements were not immediately known.
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
Originally posted by Jon Miller
See, I think that even if I disagree strongly with a position, that the people who hold it have the right to be heard, even abortion supporters, which on my list share a similar level of distaste as the Religious Right...
People should be convinced in a democracy, not made to be quiet.
Jon Miller
I fully respect differing opinions of mine that are based on facts, education, and experience -- in other words, informed opinions.
I have no respect for bigoted opinions that seek to stigmatize minority groups.
The fact that you cannot make a distinction between informed opinion and bigoted opinion is scary.
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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