the media's begun its attack on Guiliani

[Dinner]

The consensus here seems to be that you're a tool.

[Patroklos]

Did that article point out anything wrong? Oh my god, someone using their career and experience to further their business goals.

Who does this? Oerdin, I hope you don't have your military record on your resume.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

And it hasn't taken the form most would expect - complaints about his liberal social positions.

Why would the media attack Giuliani for being too liberal? I can see other Republicans doing that, but not the MSM...

Wedge issue. Keep the drum beat on his positions on abortion and gun control (all the while claiming as newsworthy that these may spell trouble within the GOP ranks) in hopes that someone else becomes GOP candidate. G. is about the only one electable from the GOP side in the general election, don't think that the WaPo et. al. don't realize this.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Personally, I think they should be attacking him for his history of authoritarianism, something the US has had more than enough of for the last 6 years.

+1

[Drake Tungsten]

G. is about the only one electable from the GOP side in the general election, don't think that the WaPo et. al. don't realize this.

McCain and Romney are both electable. It's not like either of them is going to have trouble moving toward the center...

[Ming]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Did that article point out anything wrong? Oh my god, someone using their career and experience to further their business goals.

Exactly... I see nothing wrong here. I wonder how many ex democrat law makers have gone into consulting or lobbying companies after leaving office

If this is the best the press can do, they obviously aren't digging hard enough. Why would anybody consider this a serious attack. Gee, the guy set up a successful consulting business after leaving office... and hasn't broken any laws that they could prove... and this is bad how?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

G. is about the only one electable from the GOP side in the general election, don't think that the WaPo et. al. don't realize this.

McCain and Romney are both electable. It's not like either of them is going to have trouble moving toward the center...

Who is McCain going to court and get from the middle or even slightly left of center? He has way too much baggage and is now coming off as an old coot/crank.

Romney wil be subject to being painted as a kooky Mormon=scientology from leftist bigots.

Additionally, both will be cast as hard right wackjobs.

Both won't be as popular a general election candidate as G.

[Japher]

I wonder how many ex democrat law makers have gone into consulting or lobbying companies after leaving office

Well, at least we know for sure, that Bill Clinton would never ever do this!

[Ecthy]

Fitting example, even more "lefty" supposedly

[Drake Tungsten]

Both won't be as popular a general election candidate as G.

Not as popular =! not electable

Additionally, both will be cast as hard right wackjobs.

Of course they'll try to do that (as they do to all GOP candidates), but it's going to be really difficult to make the charge stick against the former governor of Massachusetts or a person with McCain's history of bucking the Republican party line.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Personally, I think they should be attacking him for his history of authoritarianism, something the US has had more than enough of for the last 6 years.

QFT.

I'm generally inclined to like Rudy, but some of the **** he pulled in NYC is worrisome...

-Arrian

[Dinner]

As usual Kuci is wrong. Romney's big problem is he's a right winger and most right wingers are church going Christians; most of those good bible thumping Republicans still think Mormons are a cult and won't vote for a Mormon. That's Romney's big problem that his base doesn't really like his religion.

The leftists who don't like Romney do so because they recall that up until 1965 the Mormon church was still telling people that Whites were the only humans and that Blacks and Asians were another race. Mormons would be excumminicated for marrying a non-white. Then there is the fact that the founders of Mormonism really were sick twisted cultists who demanded his followers continually give him their daughters to be his wives. He had something like 50 of them.

So there are good reasons for leftists not to want to vote for a Mormon but let's face it they weren't going to vote for a right wing douche like Romni to begin with. Romney's big problem is the right wing bible thumpers mostly still see Mormonism as a heritical cult unrelated to Christianity. The reality is they're right ergo Romney isn't going to get the Christian vote and that's the kiss of death for a Republican.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Both won't be as popular a general election candidate as G.

Not as popular =! not electable

In todays lexicon where the opposition will be Clinton machine or Obamamessiah every bit of popularity counts. I don't see anyone but G having a shot at either of these two.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Oerdin
As usual Kuci is wrong.

Hmm Kuci never mentioned Romney.

As usual Oerdin is wrong.

Fixed.

The leftists who don't like Romney do so because they recall that up until 1965 the Mormon church was still telling people that Whites were the only humans and that Blacks and Asians were another race. Mormons would be excumminicated for marrying a non-white. Then there is the fact that the founders of Mormonism really were sick twisted cultists who demanded his followers continually give him their daughters to be his wives. He had something like 50 of them.

Re: "Romney wil be subject to being painted as a kooky Mormon=scientology from leftist bigots."

Case and point, see above.

edit - cross post.

[Dinner]

The Three Stooges strike again. It just gets more funny with each passing post.