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  • #61
    She can still have an orgasm can't she?
    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

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    • #62
      Unknown either way, I'd expect, since there's a lot of motor function issues. Even without the surgery, she wouldn't be capable of arousal in the mental sense, so what would someone do, experimentally diddle her to see what the motor response is? It could end up being something irritating/painful, or nothing at all.

      What's the relevance, either way?
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      • #63
        More curiosity than anything else.
        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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        • #64
          i think the parents should get a restraining order against ogie
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Last Conformist
            Okay, when did sentience become the measure of value?
            Because to go by "humaness" is speciest? Do you think that in the future robots that are just as intelligent as humans don't deserve rights just because they aren't humans?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by MRT144
              i think the parents should get a restraining order against ogie
              I was just thinking this mught be a good Hasbro opportunity. Pillow Angle dolls that wet themselves and have orgasms.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


                I was just thinking this mught be a good Hasbro opportunity. Pillow Angle dolls that wet themselves and have orgasms.
                I think hasbro should get a restraining order.
                "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                • #68
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                  “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                    You mean, given that she can't talk to us, walk, regulate her excretory functions, or even have any awareness of what an ovary is, let alone does, other than the limbic system effects of hormone secretions, one really can't identify any harm done by the procedure...
                    No, I mean, given that she can't talk to us, walk, regulate her excretory functions, or even have any awareness of what an ovary is, let alone does, other than the limbic system effects of hormone secretions, one really can't know how this procedure has impacted her...


                    The question was, what has she lost? And I pointed out that it is her ovaries that she has lost. How this impacts her life is quite another question, and not one that can be realisticly answered. Everyone will simply project their own thoughts and opinions on to the subject.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by General Ludd


                      No, I mean, given that she can't talk to us, walk, regulate her excretory functions, or even have any awareness of what an ovary is, let alone does, other than the limbic system effects of hormone secretions, one really can't know how this procedure has impacted her...


                      The question was, what has she lost? And I pointed out that it is her ovaries that she has lost. How this impacts her life is quite another question, and not one that can be realisticly answered. Everyone will simply project their own thoughts and opinions on to the subject.
                      And anyone with an ounce of common sense would ahve realised that the question of loss was taken to mean what would she lose in terms of her quality of life or quality of future life
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                        Unknown either way, I'd expect, since there's a lot of motor function issues. Even without the surgery, she wouldn't be capable of arousal in the mental sense, so what would someone do, experimentally diddle her to see what the motor response is? It could end up being something irritating/painful, or nothing at all.

                        What's the relevance, either way?
                        I'm fairly sure that "diddling" with someone in a vegetative or near vegetqative state is quite illegal. I knew a neurosurgeon who tested this idea and got an answer back. He did some time.
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Odin


                          Because to go by "humaness" is speciest? Do you think that in the future robots that are just as intelligent as humans don't deserve rights just because they aren't humans?
                          Did you miss the post where I self-identified as a speciist?
                          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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                          • #73
                            They should have killed her.

                            In these cases, execution should be allowed.

                            No good can come from letting her live.

                            Spec.
                            -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


                              I'm fairly sure that "diddling" with someone in a vegetative or near vegetqative state is quite illegal. I knew a neurosurgeon who tested this idea and got an answer back. He did some time.
                              Regardless of the legality, it's so sick as to warrant a date with Mr. Remington, a shovel, and a remote patch of desert.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Spec
                                They should have killed her.

                                In these cases, execution should be allowed.

                                No good can come from letting her live.

                                Spec.
                                Same could be said for you. No harm is done by letting her live, and she's not in a vegetative state.
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