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Last edited by Robert; May 4, 2007, 05:24.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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But it isn't now.Originally posted by CyberShy
When Iraq was invaded the current mess was also hypothetical.BlahComment
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removedLast edited by Robert; May 4, 2007, 05:24.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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I know it's my long overdue karma to have a thread of mine turned to sh** but, could we move the Iraq crap to another thread? I was more interested in how the revolutionary mindset present at the inception of most governments has affected the way their structure and operation.Comment
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CyberShy, you can judge their past action by looking at how well prepared they were for any kind of aftermath. I hear they had NO concepts at all as to what to do with a free Iraq, thinking it would all happen all by itself. "A bittoo optimistic" is rather a euphemism for that.Comment
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Don't get all bipolar on us now, dear... I mean bear!Comment
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If there's a mess "on the ground" now, then of course people should take that into account, no?Originally posted by CyberShy
But people blame Bush for the current mess only with the knowledge from now.
1. Are you now claiming the mess was unavoidable? Then you do exactly use the "knowledge from now". If you mean it was clear that it was unavoidable before the invasion, your complaint about people blaming Bush "only with the knowledge from now" is wrong.I say that with the knowledge on before the decision of Iraq was good, since the current mess was unavoidable in the end anyway.
2. Aside from this I still reject your "was unavoidable" bit if you mean this kind of mess would have come for sure with or without invasion. That's still just speculation, totally unprovable.BlahComment
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Why the hell are we talking about Iraq in this thread?Comment
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No one's refuted Sweden yet, btw. I'm too lazy to check wiki to confirm.Comment
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Because every thread on history or politics will eventually evolve into an Iraq thread. FACT!Comment
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Yes, but we hit that point by post #6
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Denmark, of course.
We nearly had one, though. But in the end, the King decided it would be better for him if he gave up his powers without a fight
Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the markComment
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Ok, sorry, but I'm an evil threadjackerOriginally posted by bipolarbear
I know it's my long overdue karma to have a thread of mine turned to sh** but, could we move the Iraq crap to another thread? I was more interested in how the revolutionary mindset present at the inception of most governments has affected the way their structure and operation.
As for "revolutionary mindset" -- I dunno if we can speak of an outspoken mindset centuries after those revolutions took place (sure there are other more recent cases). Because after establishing their new rule (or form of rule/gov/whatever) the revolutionaries of the past would probaly rather be interested in preserving what they achieved...BlahComment
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Kuci, another law is that Iraq threads will eventually turn into spamfests FACTComment
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