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[ElTigre]

Originally posted by Heresson
Did anyone bother to read this? These are serious matters. A popular opposition politician commits suicide in strange circumstances, police and other services are giving different testimonies...

I did. Thanks for the insight. So do you think she was murdered?

[Provost Harrison]

Speaking of Eastern European issues - what is the best type of waterpipe to use - copper or plastic?

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Speaking of Eastern European issues - what is the best type of waterpipe to use - copper or plastic?

Whatever is not used in Eastern Europe. You even can't throw the toilet paper down in the toilet over there.

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by Heresson
Norway is EU vassal

Indeed.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Nikolai


Whatever is not used in Eastern Europe. You even can't throw the toilet paper down in the toilet over there.

In Poland we do. In Syria, however, they do not, because their toilet suck so much they'd get stuck if You threw anything in them.

Originally posted by ElTigre


I did. Thanks for the insight. So do you think she was murdered?

No. First, the current gouverment does many immoral things in order to achieve its "moral" goals. Yet, it would not commit a murder. If she was murdered, and if she was guilty, perhaps it was by someone who wanted her to stay silent and corrupted the officers to do that. It's highly improbable, but there were misterious cases like this - never explained murder of ex-chief of police, gen. Papala, or death of one of the chiefs of the mafia in prison.
Anyway, I think she did commit suicide, but indirect responsibility rests on the gouverment. Blida perhaps did some things that may be questioned...
For example that she borrowed (not took!) money or car from Kmiecik, but the only crime per se was that she transfered money from Kmiecik to some guy whom Kmiecik owed money and asked him to cancel the mortages, which he might not have done if Kmiecik asked him himself.
But Blida was already questioned by the prosecutor in this matter a couple of times, and the matter is 10 years old, so what did they want to search the house for? and why they came at 6 am?
It was done again. "Spectacular" arrests of left-winged politicians accused of corruption. A. Jakubowska, the ex- (female) "lion of the left wing" was dragged out of her house in handcuffs and pijamas, and filmed as people were shouting bad names at her.
W. Czarzasty, who, according to the current chief-prosecutor and minister of justice in one person, is the darkest person of all left-winged corruption, was pushed by the officers to the ground and shouted at with words such as "if You move your head, I will shoot it off". We're talking about public persons, such that were among the highest officials of the state. The intent is clear. I guess B. Blida didn't want to be humiliated in this way.

Still, the gouverment, the police and the secret police apparently didn't know what to do at all so they commited a lot of dumb mistakes that do point to that there's something fishy

- first they were saying (officially) that there is no film, then, that there is, but it's only 10 seconds, later that it's only until they entered the house
- they made research and proved that there was gunpowder at Blida's hands, but they forgot to do such tests when it comes to the officers.
- first they said she was not supposed to be arrested, then they admitted that indeed she was supposed to be arrestec
- first they said that the body was found in the bathroom, then, that in the hall
- there are different testimonies regarding where the officer was when Blida shot herself

[ElTigre]

Originally posted by Heresson

In Poland we do. In Syria, however, they do not, because their toilet suck so much they'd get stuck if You threw anything in them.

Isn't that what a toilet is supposed to do?

No. First, the current gouverment does many immoral things in order to achieve its "moral" goals. Yet, it would not commit a murder. If she was murdered, and if she was guilty, perhaps it was by someone who wanted her to stay silent and corrupted the officers to do that. It's highly improbable, but there were misterious cases like this - never explained murder of ex-chief of police, gen. Papala, or death of one of the chiefs of the mafia in prison.
Anyway, I think she did commit suicide, but indirect responsibility rests on the gouverment. Blida perhaps did some things that may be questioned...
For example that she borrowed (not took!) money or car from Kmiecik, but the only crime per se was that she transfered money from Kmiecik to some guy whom Kmiecik owed money and asked him to cancel the mortages, which he might not have done if Kmiecik asked him himself.
But Blida was already questioned by the prosecutor in this matter a couple of times, and the matter is 10 years old, so what did they want to search the house for? and why they came at 6 am?
It was done again. "Spectacular" arrests of left-winged politicians accused of corruption. A. Jakubowska, the ex- (female) "lion of the left wing" was dragged out of her house in handcuffs and pijamas, and filmed as people were shouting bad names at her.
W. Czarzasty, who, according to the current chief-prosecutor and minister of justice in one person, is the darkest person of all left-winged corruption, was pushed by the officers to the ground and shouted at with words such as "if You move your head, I will shoot it off". We're talking about public persons, such that were among the highest officials of the state. The intent is clear. I guess B. Blida didn't want to be humiliated in this way.

Still, the gouverment, the police and the secret police apparently didn't know what to do at all so they commited a lot of dumb mistakes that do point to that there's something fishy

- first they were saying (officially) that there is no film, then, that there is, but it's only 10 seconds, later that it's only until they entered the house
- they made research and proved that there was gunpowder at Blida's hands, but they forgot to do such tests when it comes to the officers.
- first they said she was not supposed to be arrested, then they admitted that indeed she was supposed to be arrestec
- first they said that the body was found in the bathroom, then, that in the hall
- there are different testimonies regarding where the officer was when Blida shot herself

Don't look for a conspiracy when you can explain everything by simple stupidity...

We had a similar case in Germany a couple of years ago, when an ex-Vice Chancellor and Minister of Economics died in a parachute accident (suicide?) the same day the police searched his house in a corruption case.

[Heresson]

I'm not looking for conspiracy. I don't think anyone wanted her killed, but You can not exclude that possibility in 100%.
Anyway, after a long time of denying, the policemen admitted that the film from the action was supposed to be aired in tv. Earlier it was claimed it was only for training.

Apart from that, right wing has launched an attack on the Constitution Tribunal, claiming it acts like a third house of paliament.
The Tribunal is supposed to judge if the new lustration law is in accordance with the constitution. One of the judges used to be one of the creators of this law, so he resigned from deliberations. One is just being sworn, so he can't take part in them. Two others were excluded as the creator of the law, Mularczyk, claimed there are information about them in the Institute of National Memory about them, so they should not be lustrated themselves. Later it turned out that the information about them were that one of them denied the offer of secret services being an agent, while the other was an agent after the fall of communism, so he doesn't fall into the lustrated cathegory. Mularczyk knew about it, but he's hidden this information from the Tribunal, in order to exclude them. Now he's trying to exclude further persons. If he manages to exclude 3 more people, the Tribunal will not be able to work. And that is what the right wing wants, because it is the only office in the state that is not in their power yet.

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Palestinian tv Al-Aqsa aired a program for children, in which Mickey Mouse look-a-like urges children to destroy Israel.
"Help the muslims become lords of the world" - cries mouse.
Farfour as the jihadist mouse calls children to war.

"Pioneers of the Tomorrow" program features two persons. One is Farfour, dress as a mouse, and the other one is young Sarah.

In one of the episodes Sarah asks a girl, if "she would sacrifice her soul for Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem".
The girl replies: "I'd shoot. We'll crash the Jews... I'm going to be a martyr (shahidah)." - replies the girl

In another part of the show, young person called and recitated a poem about AK 47 riffle. Another child says: "It's the time of death. We shall fight in this war".

Diane Disney Miller, daughter of Walt Disney, was enraged: "That is indoctrination, the children is taught hate. This program is pure evil".

The show was criticised by israeli media. Hamas representatives deny comments.

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On the other hand, a lovely comic was published by important israeli newspaper, Haaretz.
It features two jewish girl in occupied by Germans Poland, which want to take cover in train full of Poles heading for (slave) work in Germany. They try to look polish: one of the girls falls into mud, and the other says "oh, now You look like a polish girl"...
The filthy Poles are, obviously, having fun and drinking heavily. They discover that the girls are jewish and decide to hand them over to Germans. Yet a good German gives them candies and advises them not to come back to the train. And rightly so, for the train was bombarded.

[Heresson]

http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/1,53600,4120475.html

You can see a film here. I can't load it, though

I attach the jihadist mouse

[Heresson]

Gouverment - controlled state tv organises periodically comedy festival. Yet, the most popular comedians party weren't invited because of making jokes about the authorities, and partly they resigned themselves after they were asked not to criticise the authorities in their jokes...

[Sirotnikov]

The whole mickey mouse thing had its own topic lately.

other than that

[DanS]

Originally posted by Heresson
Did anyone bother to read this? These are serious matters. A popular opposition politician commits suicide in strange circumstances, police and other services are giving different testimonies...

Don't bury your leads!

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Nikolai
Polish news:

Lots of Polish craftsmen flooding Norway as usual after the EU enlargement.

Norway too? How many craftsmen does Poland have?

I dunno ... Coming over here, doing our plumbing at the weekend at a reasonable rate and to a high quality ....

[Nikolai]

Well, I have no problem with them pressing the prices to more reasonable levels(although the quality varies I've heard), but the slave contracts that have been revealed, where Poles get 20-30 NOK per hour(the normal is nearly 10 times that IIRC) shows that there should be some better control so that the officals know who's here.

[Heresson]

Ukraine is on the verge of a civil war featuring president Yushtchenko on one side, and prime minister Yanukovitch and marshall of the parliament Moroz on the other. A while ago Yushtchenko accused the ruling coalition of bribing opposition parliamentarists, violating constitution and breaking agreements between them and the opposition, and dissolved the parliament. The coalition didn't recognise that, and claimed that Yushtchenko violated the constitution himself by dissolving the parliament. The Constitutional Trubunal is supposed to solve this matter, but the pressure on it from both sides is high, which made the president of it resign - his resignation was not accepted by other judges, though. There were talks between the president and prime minister, mostly about the date of the future elections, but they were unsuccessful. It is claimed it is because of Moroz, leader of socialists, once in the orange camp, now in the blue one; he is the one who would lose the most if there were elections. There was some attack of socialist-controlled Ministry of Internal Affairs forces on some prosecutor's office or whatever, and the president announced he's taking control over MoIA military forces. He also called the army to the capital, where there are giant demonstractions and big risk of clashes and unrest, but they were stoppoed by MoIA-controlled police.

[Sirotnikov]

MoIA military forces

this is what sets undemocratic countries from democratic ones.