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    It's tasteless but I really do think we're going over board on the whole everyone must apologize for every remark thing. Still, I report and you decide.


    German army in 'racist video' row
    German peacekeepers in Kosovo
    The German army has faced a series of scandals in recent years
    A video aired on German TV has shown an army recruit on firing practice being ordered to pretend he was in New York's Bronx facing hostile African Americans.

    In the grainy 90-second video, the instructor tells the soldier to swear as he fires his gun.

    US civil rights leader, Al Sharpton, said it was outrageous to depict blacks as "target practice".

    New York officials say they are saddened and frustrated that the Bronx district is depicted so negatively.

    "Clearly these folks don't know anything about African-Americans or the Bronx," said Bronx borough president Adolfo Carrion Jnr, who recently returned from a trip to Germany to promote tourism to the district.

    He has demanded an apology from the Germany military over the clip.

    Skulls

    During the filmed training session, an instructor tells the soldier: "You're in the Bronx, a black van pulls up in front of you and three African-Americans get out and start really insulting your mother... act!".

    The soldier then fires his gun several times and shouts obscenities in English, as the instructor encourages him to curse even louder.

    The clip was filmed in a forest in July 2006, near the barracks of the northern German town of Rendsburg .

    The German army said it has been aware of the video since January and was investigating it.

    It is the latest in a series of scandals to hit the German military.

    A group of 18 army instructors are on trial in the country accused of abusing and humiliating recruits during training in 2004.

    Last year, German newspapers published images of German soldiers serving in Afghanistan posing with skulls.
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    I wish Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would just shut up sometimes rather then trying to turn everything into a media event.
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  • #2
    saw this on drudge. I just can't believe they would be stupid enough to do such a thing. But then again, they were stupid enough to attack the Soviet Union.

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    • #3
      During the filmed training session, an instructor tells the soldier: "You're in the Bronx, a black van pulls up in front of you and three African-Americans get out and start really insulting your mother... act!".

      The soldier then fires his gun several times and shouts obscenities in English, as the instructor encourages him to curse even louder.


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      • #4
        Interesting, this hasn't made the German news yet. I found the video on youtube:

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        Shortly before the "Bronx incident", the instructor tells the recruit to imagine that he's guarding an airfield, and terrorists have captured a plane. He instructs him to fire two salvos. Then he starts with the Bronx story, and the recruit laughs nervously. The instructor orders him to shoot three salvos and to yell Mother****** each time, but the soldier isn't really into it, so he is instructed to yell louder.

        I don't want to defend what's happening here, but it's pretty obvious that both think of it as a joke. Really stupid, especially considering that they knew they were filmed.

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        • #5
          Apparently it has made the news, there's a short (German) article on spiegel.de:

          Totenkopf-Affäre, Folterspiele - nun ein rassistisches Trainingsvideo: Erneut gerät die Bundeswehr in Verruf. In einem Film, der im Internet kursiert, befiehlt ein Ausbilder einem Wehrdienstleistenden, er solle beim Feuern an "Afroamerikaner" denken und "Motherfucker" rufen.


          According to the article the instructor has been transferred to another base.

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          • #6
            That video was funny and I don't even speak German.
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            • #7
              American culture is truly a pervasive force, if german soldiers are told to think of african americans from the Bronx, and they also start swearing in english.

              Prediction, whithin 100 years all germanic languages will be absorbed by english, the dutch, scandinavians and germans are already pretty much completely bilingual with english.
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              • #8
                A video about a German instructor trying to be badass in front of a nervous recruit is bound to be funny. Actually it's amazing that no one was hurt...

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                • #9
                  according to Ned, german soldiers eats puppies for breakfast and babies for dinner, so I really dout that there exist nervous german recruits.

                  Besides that, this is a non story. One instructor acting stupid and so what ?
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                  • #10
                    I think Ned likes Germans, he thinks the British baited them into a world war, and used propaganda to make germans look bad.
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                    • #11
                      I don't really want German troops to be training as if they were fighting in New York City, thanks
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Barnabas
                        I think Ned likes Germans, he thinks the British baited them into a world war, and used propaganda to make germans look bad.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tacc
                          I don't really want German troops to be training as if they were fighting in New York City, thanks
                          Well, if you don't live in NYC, you shouldn't need to worry
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                          • #14
                            Giuliani made New York safe

                            Now...

                            "Imagine you are in a Rio de Janeiro Favela......." could be really war zone-ish
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                            • #15
                              Well, maybe if you say something like : "we have real life training areas where your troops can gain experience" after all, they did the same in spain in the 30'ies .
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