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    Windows Vista marketing 'deceived' consumers

    Microsoft has been accused of deceiving US consumers by marketing PCs as "Windows Vista Capable" when they could only run the most basic version of its latest operating system.

    A US lawsuit filed today claims Microsoft overstated the ability of PCs to run Windows Vista, and that an upgrade program added insult to injury by giving users access to Windows Vista Home Basic that lacked many of the advertised features.
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    The suit, filed in the Western District of Washington, is seeking class-action status for 10,000 people and damages in excess of $5m.

    The suit, Microsoft's latest class action case but the first related to Windows Vista, comes amid claims that most business PCs also lack the hardware required to run most versions of Windows Vista.

    Eighty per cent of PCs do not match Microsoft's hardware requirements to upgrade, according to Everdream (http://www.everdream.com/about/news/pr/20070326.aspx), a desktop management specialist. The biggest hurdle is lack of RAM: 70 per cent of machines lack the requisite 1GB, according to Everdream, which surveyed 140,000 desktop and laptop machines.

    It will be the court case, though, that probably occupies Microsoft most.

    The case rests on Microsoft's decision to let PC manufacturers slap stickers on PCs that describe machines as either Windows Vista "Capable" or Windows Vista "Premium Ready".

    A Windows Vista Capable machine is defined by Microsoft as using "at least" an 800MHz processor, 512MbB RAM and DirectX 9 compatible graphics card.

    The suit claims many of the Windows Vista Capable machines are only capable of running Home Basic editions of Windows Vista and could not run the next edition, Home Premium, which featured most of the heavily advertised features.

    Home Basic lacks the media center, and funky Aero interface with flip 3D and thumbnails, and was described in one underwhelming Dell product spec (http://regmedia.co.uk/2007/04/04/del...a_pc_basic.pdf) (pdf) as: "Great for booting the operating system without running applications or games."

    Despite making the information on the differences widely available on its site (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...e/capable.mspx) and through partners, the suit accused Microsoft of operating a "bait and switch - assuring consumers they were purchasing 'Vista Capable' machines when, in fact, they could only obtain a stripped-down operating system lacking the functionality and features that Microsoft advertised as 'Vista.'"

    The suit claims Bill Gates contributed to the deception by saying on NBC's Today Show, PC users could upgrade to Windows Vista for just $100. "In fact, one can only 'upgrade' to Home Basic for that price, which Mr. Gates and Microsoft know is a product that lacks the features marketed by Microsoft as being Vista."

    In reply, Microsoft said it had conducted a "very broad and unprecedented effort" (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...ml?source=mypi) to help PC makers, retailers and consumers "understand the hardware requirements to run the various flavors of the Windows Vista operating system."®


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  • #2
    Summary?
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    • #3
      What bull**** lawsuits...

      Waaaah, you said it was Vista capable, and you only meant the lowest level of Vista... waaaah!
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      • #4
        Microsoft made the standards publicly available. Boohoo.

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        • #5
          "Here, buy this car, It will fill all you transportation needs. (If you only wish to drive from your home to the closest grocery store, on thursdays.)"
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          • #6
            "When I say 'Windows Vista Capable'," said Humpty BillGatety, "it means just what I mean it to mean. No more, no less."

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            • #7
              Can we make a bot to auto-ban idiots who post from The Register as a source?
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Asher
                Can we make a bot to auto-ban peope who post that other people are idiots
                Corrected!
                Keep on Civin'
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                • #9
                  You invite it upon yourself. It's a bit like sourcing the Weekly World News in a political discussion.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Doddler
                    Summary?
                    Microsoft heavily advertises the new features that its Vista operating system can perform.

                    Bill Gates goes on TV, saying an upgrade is only $100.

                    Microsoft permits computer manufacturers to slap labels on their computers as "Vista Capable" or "Vista Premium Ready."

                    But -- surprise -- most of these computers can only run the most basic version of Vista, which doesn't have all the heavily advertised features.

                    Customers buy these crap computers and then discover that they can't run the operating system with the features they want. They sue.

                    Imran and Kuci call them cry babies.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zkribbler
                      Microsoft heavily advertises the new features that its Vista operating system can perform.

                      Bill Gates goes on TV, saying an upgrade is only $100.

                      Microsoft permits computer manufacturers to slap labels on their computers as "Vista Capable" or "Vista Premium Ready."

                      But -- surprise -- most of these computers can only run the most basic version of Vista
                      This is blatantly false. Show me one brand new computer that can't run Vista's new features -- even integrated graphics from the past couple years can run it.


                      Customers buy these crap computers and then discover that they can't run the operating system with the features they want. They sue.
                      What happened is people are confused because some features aren't available on the lowest end of the product line. Just like how on TV commercials they may show a fully loaded car, but unless you buy that fully loaded car, you don't get all that ****...

                      This is a ridiculous case of Americans suing anyone and anything they can for ridiculous reasons. It's a tremendous dig to Americans, but go figure that many people here aren't bright enough to see what's going on.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #12
                        They're basically suing because Microsoft is using the same successful marketing techniques as everyone else. That is: telling no blatant lies, knowing that people will hear what they want to hear.

                        There are, what, 6 flavors of Vista (Ultimate, home premium, home basic, enterprise, blahblah)? How could you possibly select one without seeing their different abilities and requirements? Every computer store and website has charts showing which features work with which version. If you can't be troubled to know WTF you're buying, you deserve whatever fate may befall you. Caveat emptor!

                        My guess is there are two possible sources of deception here:
                        1. deceived by a salesperson who is less than forthcoming
                        2. deceived by oneself, i.e. delusional.

                        I'm no fan of Microsoft's business practices, but I've got to agree with Asher. (Well, except for the dig at Americans, who really have no monopoly on stupidity. Ours is just better publicized.)
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                        • #13
                          My computer runs Vista Premium fine.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher

                            This is blatantly false. Show me one brand new computer that can't run Vista's new features -- even integrated graphics from the past couple years can run it.
                            This, from the article:

                            Eighty per cent of PCs do not match Microsoft's hardware requirements to upgrade, according to Everdream (http://www.everdream.com/about/news/pr/20070326.aspx), a desktop management specialist. The biggest hurdle is lack of RAM: 70 per cent of machines lack the requisite 1GB, according to Everdream, which surveyed 140,000 desktop and laptop machines.

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                            • #15
                              There's a reason businesses wait a lengthy period before "upgrading" their current operating system.
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