Gore Refuses to take Personal Energy Ethics Pledge

[Dinner]

All they have left is denying the obvious. It's sad and more then a little pathetic.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Don't make me tear open my stitches.

[Jaakko]

I like all the self-styled anti-global warming geniuses. They make up some kookball ****, throw in some random scientific terms for seasoning and commence whining how evil corrupt academics ignore THE TRUTH!

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Jaakko
I like all the self-styled anti-global warming geniuses. They make up some kookball ****, throw in some random scientific terms for seasoning and commence whining how evil corrupt academics ignore THE TRUTH!

I don't think anyone here is denying it, what we're doing is calling the biggest activist out there put his money where his mouth is.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Oerdin
All they have left is denying the obvious. It's sad and more then a little pathetic.

But whats obvious?? In the 70s there was a consensus around global cooling.

Ocean tempertures off of North America has shown some rapid changes both up and down and the scientists frankly don't know what they mean and lack the historical data to assess the commonality of such events

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Lonestar


I don't think anyone here is denying it, what we're doing is calling the biggest activist out there put his money where his mouth is.

Let's try this yet again Gore is putting his money where his mouth is. He is paying extra to get "green" energy, i.e. from sources which do not produce CO2.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


Let's try this yet again Gore is putting his money where his mouth is. He is paying extra to get "green" energy, i.e. from sources which do not produce CO2.

Let's try this again, the answer is not to use only green energy but keep expended enormous amounts of it, but to reduce energy expenditures. He want's other people to do that, but he gets a pass?

[Jaakko]

Originally posted by Lonestar


Let's try this again, the answer is not to use only green energy but keep expended enormous amounts of it, but to reduce energy expenditures. He want's other people to do that, but he gets a pass?

1. Gore wants people to use offsets.

2. It's industry & commerce that matters, not private residences.

Capisce?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


Let's try this yet again Gore is putting his money where his mouth is. He is paying extra to get "green" energy, i.e. from sources which do not produce CO2.

While that helps, do you think that say the manfacture and transporation and construction of a windmill causes zero emissions? Do you nthink there would currently be enough alternative energy sources to meet the needs of everyone?

I sincerely doubt it. So if someone pays for alternative energy it likely doesn't change the fact that for every unit of energy they use, a unit of energy is generated using hydrocarbons somewhere in the system.

I don't necessarily think that Gore's energy usage is that bad BUT I do think that a preacher of a message should at least look at his usage and acknowledge that reductions in usage is the VERY best method to reduce emissions

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Flubber
While that helps, do you think that say the manfacture and transporation and construction of a windmill causes zero emissions? Do you nthink there would currently be enough alternative energy sources to meet the needs of everyone?

I sincerely doubt it. So if someone pays for alternative energy it likely doesn't change the fact that for every unit of energy they use, a unit of energy is generated using hydrocarbons somewhere in the system.

I don't necessarily think that Gore's energy usage is that bad BUT I do think that a preacher of a message should at least look at his usage and acknowledge that reductions in usage is the VERY best method to reduce emissions

So using emission-free energy causes emissions??

I suppose if Gore tried to cut down on energy usage by shooting himself in the head, someone would claim that the gasses produced from firing the bullet caused global warming and therefore Gore is a hypocrite.



With your ability to torture logic, you should get a job at Gitmo.

[General Ludd]

Why does anyone give a **** about gore, anyways? He's a dufus.

If you want to criticize environmentalists, you could atleast look to a real environmentalist and not some airhead politician.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Jaakko
I like all the self-styled anti-global warming geniuses. They make up some kookball ****, throw in some random scientific terms for seasoning and commence whining how evil corrupt academics ignore THE TRUTH!

It's a common right wing ploy.

[axi]

“Personal Energy Ethics Pledge”?

P.E.E.P.?

Al Gore refuses to take a PEEP?

Hell yeah, he's not a PEEP-ing Tom!

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Why does anyone give a **** about gore, anyways? He's a dufus.

Maybe, but he's been more successful with raising environmental awareness than pretty much anybody else.

[General Ludd]

Environmental awareness is good, but when cuppled with the sort of feel-good bull**** that says buying Al Gore brand products and voting democrat will save the world....