Snakes on a Plane??

[Spec]

Originally posted by b etor
not if i'm sleeping on a plane.
i'm going to be on a plane friday.
i would not like this to happen to me.

What if its one of the Back street boys?

Spec.

[MRT144]

back street boys? thats asher's realm

[korn469]

I don't understand why she did get freaked out when

He touched her, which she described as spooning, lifted her shirt and then got up and left.

I mean she's on a plane, so it's not like she's alone. why didn't she start screaming when he grabbed her tits?

[b etor]

Originally posted by Spec


What if its one of the Back street boys?

Spec.

ickk.

Originally posted by korn469
I mean she's on a plane, so it's not like she's alone. why didn't she start screaming when he grabbed her tits?

she is a liar. she probably enjoyed it till the sticky stuff. i want to see pictures of all involved.

[MRT144]

b etor, as a woman I dont think you should jump on the bandwagon of "some women enjoy sexual assaults"

[padillah]

Originally posted by MRT144
b etor, as a woman I dont think you should jump on the bandwagon of "some women enjoy sexual assaults"

This type of discussion would require a concrete objective deffinition of "sexual assult". Since this borders on the impossible it will probably degenerate into name-calling.

To propose that there are women out there that have a kinky streak is not unimaginable. To suggest that there are women that are turned on by the thought of an anonymous tryst is not a stretch.

"Assault" is a very loaded word and has caused more problems than are necessary.

Tom P.

[MRT144]

he shot someone. that is assault. he shot someone with his love pump. thus sexual.

furthermore ive been with kinky women but that was consensual and this was not.

[padillah]

First thing I want to make perfectly clear is I don't condone any acts of sexual misconduct.

Originally posted by MRT144
he shot someone. that is assault.

Really? What was the person doing that he shot? What provoked him to shoot them?

he shot someone with his love pump. thus sexual.

Simply involving genetalia doesn't make it sexual. Psychologists, for years, have said that rape is not about sex, it's about power. So if the act of having sex can be about something else how can we attribute a concrete meaning to this?

furthermore ive been with kinky women but that was consensual and this was not.

A poster above said it much more colorfully but... she could have said or done something when he sat down and spooned or even when he lifted her shirt. Her lack of objection could easily be construed as consent. Remember, she said she felt him sit down and lift her shirt so she wasn't asleep. She also got up right after and told the stewardess so she was not incapacitated.

As soon as a persons mindset; what they think, how offended they were, whether they had objections... comes into play you cannot establish a concrete definition.

Several women in the adult industry advocate "having fun with sex". This is not the same as condoning sexual assault. To b etor's point, we have no idea what was going through that woman's mind that led her to sit still while he spooned her and then remain quiet while he lifted her shirt and concluded his endeavor. Simply because she currently professes disgust doesn't mean she felt disgusted at the time, hence the conflict.

Tom P.

[MRT144]

saying that inaction can equal consent is idiotic though. think about it.

furthermore you have a problem with the semantics of the phrase "sexual assault". Unfortunately if you dont think rape is considered a sexual assault then you arent operating in concrete legal definitions.

come clean tom, was it YOU on the plane?

[padillah]

Originally posted by MRT144
saying that inaction can equal consent is idiotic though. think about it.

Then you have asked everyone you've ever been involved with their opinions on everythingg you've ever done? No. If there were no such thing as implicit consent there'd be no rape trials - either she said yes or not, right? If someone hands you a beer and you take it, that's implicit consent.

furthermore you have a problem with the semantics of the phrase "sexual assault". Unfortunately if you dont think rape is considered a sexual assault then you arent operating in concrete legal definitions.

No, I have no qualms with how rape is handled in the courts currently and have very little issue with the "sex offenders list". I am simply saying that a woman's tacit approval of a sexual advance is not the same as saying women enjoy being assaulted.

I see no contraditions in b etor thinking a woman that did not object, especially when the means were as easy as this situation, enjoyed what was happening and is only denouncing it to save face.

come clean tom, was it YOU on the plane?

If it was me the floor, seat, and shoes wouldn't be the only things that got "sticky"!



Tom P.