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  • #46
    Re: Re: Obama = slaveowner

    Originally posted by Zkribbler


    Only a Republican would smear an opponent because of something his great-great-great-great grandfather supposedly did.
    Actually, I'm pretty sure this kind of smear comes directly from his democratic rivals.
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    • #47
      Re: Re: Obama = slaveowner

      Originally posted by Spiffor

      Actually, I'm pretty sure this kind of smear comes directly from his democratic rivals.
      Precisely. Not only do the repugs have less reason to waste time & effort smearing a whole year before the primaries are decided, but more importantly: why the hell would they bother trying to discredit Obama in the eyes of the black community? It already votes like 90% Dem anyway, so smearing him would only shift votes from one Dem to another. That would do neither good nor harm to the GOP, but I can think of one Dem who would certainly benefit...
      Last edited by Darius871; March 3, 2007, 07:50.
      Unbelievable!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
        News to me. What determines blackness, then?


        I don't have the time to explain it to your cracker ass. Reading this may give you an idea, though...

        http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/01/22/obama/
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        • #49
          They're at it again. The Repugs are pushing these little smear peices about Obama and trying to pin Hillary for them.

          Then in public, they push and push Obama as the next great leader. For the same reason: they are scared sh*tless by Hillary. Any little way to gnaw at her ankles, and sadly to say, the smear-and-run pieces are having (albeit limited) success.

          If it's not clear, these little "Obama owned slaves" and "Obama is an Islamoterrorist" revelations aren't targeting him. They're stupid little bickering nonsense and no one will remember them a few months from now. The goal is that, in the long term, people think that Hillary stooped so low as to try and smear him.
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          • #50
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            • #51
              It's all part of Rove's plot, mitchell:

              Karl Rove Accused Of Throwing Midterm Elections

              The Democrats' resounding midterm election triumph—sweeping both houses of Congress, as well as a majority of state legislatures and governorships—immediately bred suspicion among party leadership that Karl Rove, President Bush's closest adviser and the political mastermind behind Bush's rise to power, was once again pulling the strings.

              "Let's not celebrate just yet," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said on Nov. 8, shortly after the more closely contested seats were declared in the Democrats' favor. "This decisive Democratic victory could very well be part of an unfathomably brilliant plan of Karl Rove's to position the Republicans for the 2016 elections, and probably beyond. History has shown that the man is an unstoppable evil genius. You can't underestimate him."

              Rove, who has consistently proven himself over the last 12 years to be the only person in Washington capable of affecting national elections, refused to comment.

              "We were blindsided when he gave us the House, but then Rove really twisted the knife with the Senate victory," CNN's Paul Begala said. "Evidently, he must be five or six steps ahead on the chessboard, executing a strategy we can only guess at."

              Political watchdog groups said that Rove left too many obvious clues. They pointed to the breaking of the Mark Foley sex scandal, the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, the political downfall of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, the refusal of embattled Speaker Of The House Dennis Hastert and Secretary Of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to step down, and the deaths of hundreds of U.S. soldiers in Iraq since the 2004 presidential election. Even the escalating civil insurrection in Iraq "sports the trademark Rove touch," in the words of one blogger for the political website The Huffington Post.

              "For a little while there, it looked like Rove's nefarious master plan might be undone by Kerry's bungled remarks about the troops, but it succeeded anyway," New York Times columnist Paul Krugman said. "Unless, of course, Kerry's remarks were all part of the plan, too."

              Still others have posited a second Rove involvement theory, in which they believe he predicted a Republican victory two weeks' prior to Election Day so he could bet heavily on a Democratic victory and make "an enormous killing in Vegas." They speculate Rove then either kept the winnings for himself or funneled them into a GOP slush fund.

              Rove did not return calls concerning these charges.

              "Can't people see we're playing right into this man's hands?" Democratic Congressional Campaign Chairman Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) said. "The fact that he did not address this issue publicly proves his collusion. Leave it to Rove to poison a victory this sweet."

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              • #52
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                • #53
                  Now Obama's been reduced to lying in an attempt to tie himself to the civil rights movement and black Americans. From a speech in Selma, AL yesterday...

                  What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we’re battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we’re not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.” So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

                  This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama.




                  Sounds great, right? It would be, except Obama's father arrived in America in 1959, two years before JFK was inagurated, and Obama himself was born in 1961, four years before Bloody Sunday in Selma...

                  At least he told the truth about his slaveholding ancestors.
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                  • #54
                    Why did he even feel compelled to respond to this drivel? Ouch shouldn't have gone to the my Daddy story.

                    Tactically as inept a move as Hillary's going ape****e over Geffin tongue lashing. Quick (but ill though out) responses for damage control.
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                    • #55
                      Drake: he reports, you decide.

                      The absurdity of this...

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                      • #56
                        Is this one going to stick any better than the madrassa thing?

                        Drake, you really have a hardon for Obama. Does this mean you're assuming he's going to win the Democratic nomination?
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                        • #57
                          How long until the real issues are going to be discussed?
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #58
                            Issues? This is American politics.
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                            • #59
                              I know...

                              wishful thinking

                              I just find it hilarious how people on both sides are getting so worked up over stupid crap like this.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                                Issues? This is American politics.
                                Its a primary, where theres a heckuva lot of overlap on issues. I doubt Obama is a bitter enemy of Hilarycare, or that Hilary is going to assault Obama's constitutional law positions. Obama can get high and might about Hilarys vote on the Iraq war, but even he has to try and sound tough on Iran, and pro-Israel. Hillary, OTOH, cant go shouting about Obama supporters who are, well not so pro-Israel, or who have love for Chavez, cause shes gonna be hoping those dudes vote for her in the general election.

                                The Repubs cant talk about issues yet wrt Obama, cause they dont even know who their own candidate will be.
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