Leftist youth groups conduct street battles with police in Copenhagen

[ZEE]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Our plan involves breaking the law.

erm,

stick with the pirate flag kid...
i can get you an even cooler one if you want...

[Pekka]

I guess I'm still waiting for the intellectual communist claim how this will all be for the good of us all

[Odin]

This thread is surreal...

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Our plan involves breaking the law. That's different from yours, but then our situation is different from yours also. We can just raise money like you can. If you want to think we don't organize our protests though you go right ahead. I really don't care.

I saw the level of "organization " at the G-8 protests here in Calgary. The internet and cell phones create reasonable sized crowds but without a symbol or a fence to storm they just seemed lost.

It was almost funny to see anarchists and communists strolling side by side

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and if "your" groups can raise money then I say RAISE IT AND BUY YOUR OWN BUILDINGS

[Flubber]

Pekka has kid figured out though


If this was a traditional right HQ he would be applauding the police for moving in although perhaps with a conspiracy theory about why it took so many years before action would be taken.

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Hell if this was a righty-OWNED establishment he would lead the cheer if a government were expropriating it " for the good of the people" for a value determined by said government. It seems like what is fair is identified not by what happens but by the identity and ideology of the party

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[Pekka]

He did say if it was neonazis, it would be OK, and in fact they'd go and 'fight them', because 'they're the nazis'. So this stand has absolutely nothing pragmatic in it, just another one of these.

And by stating that 'we want to use strength' to gain power, because there's not enough money, you can figure what that means. That would translate into 'communist revolution by force'. YEah, right, that's a brilliant idea.

All these loonies gather together, I bet half of these rioting people don't want communism. But every crazy person joins these things. If you have a... big demo for environment, soon you'll have all these animal rights activists, glory for lesbians movement, anarchists, communists .. the whole bunch just gathers, everyone shouts loud, no one can hear each other, everyone has a different goal, but everyone is also ready to start ****ing up things, a small minority will actually do it, but the collective doesn't exist. Kid calls this 'organized action'.

It doesnt' really matter though. We got the gun and the money

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Pekka




All these loonies gather together, I bet half of these rioting people don't want communism. But every crazy person joins these things. If you have a... big demo for environment, soon you'll have all these animal rights activists, glory for lesbians movement, anarchists, communists .. the whole bunch just gathers, everyone shouts loud, no one can hear each other, everyone has a different goal, but everyone is also ready to start ****ing up things, a small minority will actually do it, but the collective doesn't exist. Kid calls this 'organized action'.

That's what I saw at the G-8 protests in Calgary. It was a gathering of many many diverse causes with only a few commonalities. Some of the causes were completely contradictory and some were quite moderate but they were united in dissatisfaction with government direction and plans

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Kidicious


We can't out bid you guys Flubber. So we do this. If we do nothing you win.

This is actually a nice little gem.

In an effort to solve the situation peacefully, they were offered another public owned building which the foundation could buy. Everyone was happy except for one little detail wich made it fail. The yougsters wouldn't accept that a fair price was paid. They demanded that the building should be given to them for a symbolic price of 1 danish crown wich is something like 16-17 cents.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Pekka
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No. Just kill these people. Kill them in their deaths until they die and are no more.

[Combat Ingrid]

Nice postcard

[Kidlicious]

This thread is getting to ridiculous for me.

[Pekka]

Flubber, exactly. Now, there's no realism what so ever to be even united. If you would unite all these sections, you'd have a million different opinions, and should they ever gain any power, it would turn into inside fighting, where the strongest clique would win, if someone wins. Before that, there would be no consensus. The one that most likely wins is the strongest, so the strongest one remains, but the others who lost will leave to establish their own little wings in it. And then it would again lose all power.

What's funny about these kids is that if you would give them power, what would they do with it? What is your mission statement? Are you going to give me a value list? No, what would you do, in practice? Except destroy the nation's economy, and thus destroy ALL services, and make the poor suffer the most as the aftermath?

The irony of it would be, that they'd lose power very quickly after that, most likely from a whole lot bigger and angrier group, the normal citizens, whose economy just was flushed down the toilet.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict, that this woudl fail so bad, that the 'poor' would be the ones left with even less than before.

But if they had any intelligence, they'd be doing something else anyway.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by BlackCat




This is actually a nice little gem.

In an effort to solve the situation peacefully, they were offered another public owned building which the foundation could buy. Everyone was happy except for one little detail wich made it fail. The yougsters wouldn't accept that a fair price was paid. They demanded that the building should be given to them for a symbolic price of 1 danish crown wich is something like 16-17 cents.

Nice to get some more facts. Sooooooo, they are rioting because they want a free building. That puts it all in perspective

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Pekka
Flubber, exactly. Now, there's no realism what so ever to be even united. If you would unite all these sections, you'd have a million different opinions, and should they ever gain any power, it would turn into inside fighting, where the strongest clique would win, if someone wins. Before that, there would be no consensus. The one that most likely wins is the strongest, so the strongest one remains, but the others who lost will leave to establish their own little wings in it. And then it would again lose all power.

But pekka the lack of unity is not shocking. The political parties that govern are NOT made up of people and leaders that have a common view of everything. But they compromise and choose something in the middle of all the divergent views.

[Pekka]

THIS is police brutality, THIS is when certain people were oppressed because of their race and colour of their skin. Hmm, they seem to be quite reasonable, doesn't look dangerous people to me... ?!!



Compared to this, France, not too long ago:



Compared to this, Copehagen. Creating barriers to... keep the fascists out:



Compared to THIS, Copehagen, again. I guess the fascists set all these fires..:



.. Of course, great comparisons with the first picture.

Compare again:



To this:



Yep.. the comparison is surreal.