Which is most evil: Circumcision, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Americans, filosofers

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by CyberShy
They had no choise, so I don't think they should take responsibility. I'm not against abortion in such a case because it's a choise between two evils.

It is pointless trying to flip flop here, either she has the right to abort the unwanted foetus or not. What's it going to be?

[Kuciwalker]

You're the one being simplistic here. It is possible that the evil of abortion is less than the evil of forcing a woman to bear the child of her rapit, but more than the evil of forcing a woman to bear a child she willingly conceived.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Pekka
Penis mutilation without the consent of the person.

Skull crushing without the consent of the person.

[Asher]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Skull crushing without the consent of the person.

You're clearly not aware of the definition of person.

[ZEE]

im an even BIGGER smartass you know...

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Asher

You're clearly not aware of the definition of person.

so youd approve of circumcision, if it could be done in utero?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Asher
You're clearly not aware of the definition of person.

Obviously being forced through a small orifice is absolutely essential to being morally valued as a person.

[Drake Tungsten]

so youd approve of circumcision, if it could be done in utero?

How about a partial-birth circumcision?

[Asher]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
so youd approve of circumcision, if it could be done in utero?

Do whatever you want to a fetus in its first trimester.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

so youd approve of circumcision, if it could be done in utero?

How about a partial-birth circumcision?

Only half bagels would be served aftewards.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I destroy a pro-lifer, so the pro-lifers want the thread closed. Now there's a surprise

You beat CyberShy. CyberShy, for crying out loud. That's not something to be proud of. And no, I will not be baited into resuming this same damned tedious argument over again, no matter how much you thump your chest.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
You're the one being simplistic here. It is possible that the evil of abortion is less than the evil of forcing a woman to bear the child of her rapit, but more than the evil of forcing a woman to bear a child she willingly conceived.

No, it is the right of a woman to choose what she does with her own body. If she wants to bear it, she can, and if not, she shouldn't. What right do other people have to tell her what to do when no one else is harmed?

[ZEE]

obviously none of yall will change your minds... so... whats the point?

[Kuciwalker]

No, it is the right of a woman to choose what she does with her own body. If she wants to bear it, she can, and if not, she shouldn't. What right do other people have to tell her what to do when no one else is harmed?

Sigh.

In general I agree with you. But you were asserting a false dichotomy:

either she has the right to abort the unwanted foetus or not

There is no necessary inconsistency in a morality that says she has the right to abort unwanted foetuses in some situations and not in others.

[Provost Harrison]

I was asking for CyberShy's opinion on the matter...does she have that right or not...there is no inbetween. Whether she exercises that right or not is a different matter entirely...