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    Why are they so .. one dimensional? Usually, bunch of paintings. Sure, they can be very awesome in their own respective field. I'm not denying it.

    However, the other direction seems to be 'look I'm a bit insane so I must be a great artist', splash some blood and urine on the walls, hang some smelly and rotting pig bodies from the roof with chains and be 'eccentric'. Of course, this view is very biased and does not necessarily represent the reality of the shows.

    However, what I'd like to see is mixed art, daring stuff with real implications. Like for example, I'd like to stuff these big flat screen TVs inside the walls, and have looping videos of real hacking happening, into known institutions, people breaking into all kinds of systems, just dark rooms and mostly just corridors, so you're walking from another hack to a new one, while music is playing all around from drum and bass to all kinds of 'new music'. Then, there's some weird techno chicks with bold heads, kind of androgyn types of people, pale and ****, handing you all kinds of mind stimulants. Acid, mdma, and what your preferred weapons would be.

    Every piece would include information that is supposedly dangerous: how to protect your identity, how to find out information that is protected, how to attack root servers, industrial as well as international targets and a point system, so as the attacks progress, people can become a part of the gallery, so it's like a scavenger hunt and much glory for the winner.

    Gas masks, big beat, low fi, and everyone who comes and and has their bluetooth open will have automatically some new numbers in their list, 'borrowed' numbers of celebrities and stuff. Another present for guests would be a DVD filled with nice tools for 'citizen activism' to protect your individual rights .

    We'd show how to use voice changers and infiltrate into phone networks fairly safely and go to loopback areas and put surveillance on other people and tap into their phones without people knowing about it, build-it-yourself lasers that capture sound (when you point it to a window), all kinds of interesting stuff. Scanning for active surveillance around the city and show the blocks with most surveillance in a huge screen in the main room.

    A shooting range, you can shoot stuff, controlled demolition while aggressive music is playing, tear gas into your face, **** it, it's pretty sadistic if you want to come and see the show, and it is guaranteed to run for two days max before it is shut down, but what the hell.. it's not like it's as boring as a bowl of fruit painted by a feminist with a grudge against men.
    In da butt.
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  • #2
    Pekka,

    id be the first MF in that place...

    truly genius...
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    • #3
      I know, people would go see that! And you can take stuff out if it's too much, we don't need a shooting range and we don't need to tear gas people's faces. That might be too much.

      But other stuff goes. Digital Renegades or something like that.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pekka
        I know, people would go see that! And you can take stuff out if it's too much, we don't need a shooting range and we don't need to tear gas people's faces. That might be too much.

        youre getting soft pekka...

        id add a hardcore music room, like a sort of super club... with holograms of crazy **** all over the place...
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        • #5
          The sort of thing you're asking for can easily be found if you go to the right galleries.
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          • #6
            Please elaborate.
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            • #7
              Last fall I went to an artist talk, where the artist was describing some of the work he's done. He does alot of stuff with internet and wireless technology. He had an installation where there was a jack hammer set up against the wall of the gallery, and every time the gallery's website got a 'hit' the jack hammer would turn on and take a chunk out of the wall. He also had this arena of police cars that where connected to an internet scouring program that is an open-source/pirate version of an program used for homeland security or something that surches the internet for words like 'bomb' or 'plane' or whatever. Everytime that one of those words is found it would relay a command to the police cars, who would then drive around in correspondence to the words that are found. He also did interactive real-time video performance where people in the audience could use their laptops and cellphones to interact with the video, by introducing new media and creating visual effects.
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              • #8
                He also had a project where he designed a wireless jamming device that would jam wireless internet providers within a 10 block radius, except for friendly isps that would be allowed through. He did this in response to corporate wireless networks taking over grassroot community servers, or something.
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                • #9
                  Nice! Sounds really cool

                  Of course there's some 'tech art' out there. I find them interesting. I really like the one with the police cars, a great idea. I just.. I'm hoping to see a gallery with many sources, sound, visual, everything mixed up and then it's an experience.
                  In da butt.
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                  THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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                  • #10
                    Wow!

                    Is you life really nihilistic enough that you'd be willing to get tear gassed or inflict damage on other peoples property just in order to have this kind of extreme experience? You would go this far to satisfy your individual desire to have real emotions? Get high on violence?

                    You sound like those black block punks at riots. Maybe you should turn into crimes.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by laurentius
                      You sound like those black block punks at riots. Maybe you should turn into crimes.
                      apparently you dont know pekka and his flamboyant, outlandish posts...
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                      • #12
                        obviously not....and you are?
                        Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

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                        • #13
                          I said the tear gas might be too much.

                          Other than that, there was no violence in that show. Damage to private property? Hardly. The only thing that could be considered damage is to show hacking. If you want to go down to the road where you would see hacking as evil, damaging private property, well, of course we have to look at each case individually, but in general? That's a harsh judgement.

                          No violence in that show. This is not a porn show, somehow I get the feeling you think this is some kind of dark S/M fetish porn show, it isn't, it's high tech radical show.
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                          • #14
                            noone of consequence
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