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    PANIPAT: The curse of history returned to haunt Panipat on Sunday night. Over the centuries, India's fate has been thrice decided in bloody battles on the plains of this small town in Haryana.

    Now as neighbours India and Pakistan work hesitantly towards building bridges, two explosions turned the Samjhauta Express, a symbol of sharedness for the two countries, into an inferno about 10 km from here, leaving 67 dead and 15 injured, four of them battling for life.

    The timing is significant. On Tuesday, Pakistan foreign minister Khurshid M Kasuri arrives in New Delhi for talks on the peace process between the two countries.

    While Pakistan has stated its greater resolve now to further the process, India recognised that the intent of the blasts was to rip apart the growing understanding or 'samjhauta' between the two sides.

    The explosions took place at 11.53 pm on the outskirts of Deewana railway station. Pointman Babulal Meena said gateman Pawan Kumar, who mans gate no. 47, heard the blasts. In a few seconds the Attari-bound train, travelling at 90 kmph, entered Deewana.

    Assistant station master Vinod Kumar Gupta said he saw the last two coaches of the train on fire as it hurtled past. "I immediately messaged the driver on our walkie-talkie," he said. The train stopped about 2 km away at gate no. 49, near Siwah village.

    Rajendra Prasad, a bus conductor who lives about 100 metres from where the train had stopped, heard the commotion on the track. "I rushed out and saw the last two coaches burning. One of them would not open from inside. Those travelling in that coach were trapped.

    The air was filled with the stench of burning bodies. A few passengers emerged from the other burning coach. Some of them just fell down and died in a few minutes. It was hard to tell whether they were men or women," he said.

    Of the seven bodies identified so far, three are Pakistani nationals. The hand of Lashkar-e-Taiba is suspected. "One suspect has been detained," railway minister Lalu Prasad said. Bharti Arora, superintendent of police, RPF, said that crude bombs had been used to trigger the low-intensity blasts.

    "Suitcases filled with iron pipes containing low-grade explosives, detonators and timers and bottles filled with petrol and kerosene had been smuggled into three coaches," she said. The explosives suspected to be planted at the Old Delhi railway station went off in two coaches.
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    I don't understand why we don't take a ruthless stand towards terrorists. We still don't know what will happen to Afzal (the guy who tried to attack out Parliament), thanks to the the vote-bank politics of the current government. They may even recommend to the President that he be pardoned, in spite of the court's deaths sentence.

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    Isn't this a daily occurance?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Asher
      Isn't this a daily occurance?
      Not daily. But it happens every few months. And our country does absolutely nothing at all about it. I don't know which is worse.

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      • #4
        I thought it was very impressive that although the train suffered a bomb attack killing dozens, it only delayed it by a few hours - in the UK many of our trains get delayed even longer without such handicaps...
        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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        • #5
          Do you know why there is no action against these acts? Is it because there is a lack of resources or what? Seems to me, that this falls into two categories, first of all it is a national matter, so it becomes a political issue. No necessarily international, but a domestic issue, ie how do we stop this.

          If there is no will for discussion, it still falls into the police category, where the police has to do something, gather intel if no cooperation with other authorities and take care of this problem, as they have their duty to protect the people.

          So, this shouldn't be an issue where no one takes responsibility. It should be an issue of who leads it, and who coordinates all the departments involved.
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          • #6
            The article I saw pointed out that one of the reasons so many people died was that the train, like many (most? all?) in India, has bars over the windows. This helped prevent escape. Doh.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MOBIUS
              I thought it was very impressive that although the train suffered a bomb attack killing dozens, it only delayed it by a few hours - in the UK many of our trains get delayed even longer without such handicaps...
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              • #8
                Why would a pakistani terrorist attack this train? I had heard it was mostly muslim indians who were going to Pakistan (or returning from it rather) to visit family ...
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                • #9
                  Hindu Nationalists
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by snoopy369
                    Why would a pakistani terrorist attack this train? I had heard it was mostly muslim indians who were going to Pakistan (or returning from it rather) to visit family ...
                    Surely you are not implying muslims don't kill muslims?
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                    • #11
                      Surely you aren't implying India doesn't have a history of violence by the Hindu community against its Muslim population?
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                      • #12
                        I'm implying I don't understand why they're blaming Muslims when Hindus seem like the obvious answer

                        I just don't understand what the point of Muslims killing Muslims would be. These are in theory the people the terrorists are trying to *help* ...
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                        • #13
                          DD - I would need to know more about the origins of Hindu nationalism to properly express an opinion on that.

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                          • #14
                            DD

                            From what ive read analysts think its the Lashkar E Taiba, a jihadi org. They want to stop the peace process between Pakistan and India, and they are happy to kill Muslims to do so. AFAIK while Hindu nationalists riot and all, they have no history of train bombings like this one.

                            Snoopy - Im surprised you would think that LeT, an AQ affiliated terr org, is actually interested in helping muslims. They are interested in advancing the cause of making Pakistan a Sharia state, taking Kashmir, and maybe establishing a Caliphate. Actually helping ordinary muslims live better lives is hardly a priority of theirs.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by snoopy369
                              I'm implying I don't understand why they're blaming Muslims when Hindus seem like the obvious answer

                              I just don't understand what the point of Muslims killing Muslims would be. These are in theory the people the terrorists are trying to *help* ...
                              Peace between India and Pakistan = no money for Pakistani terrorist organisations.
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