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This guy flip flops his way all over the map. Straight talk my ass.
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He's a senator, and a fairly long-tenured one at that. And he's trying to win a nomination. WTF did you expect?
He can "talk straight" and lose, or he can go for the win. You'll complain, but you're gonna vote Dem anyway.
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QFT. How is this news?Originally posted by Arrian
He's a senator, and a fairly long-tenured one at that. And he's trying to win a nomination. WTF did you expect?Comment
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I think Oerdin is just pointing out the hypocricy of Republicans who complained about Kerry's Flip Flopping. It was ridiculous at the time I can't believe how effective it was though.
As if changing your mind is a bad thing!!! Learning from mistakes and evolving your opinions is a very good thing in a person.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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It did seem to be surprisingly effective. But consider the target audience of such lines.
But it probably only works if the opponent's experience is one the executive side of government (Dubya was a governor). If it's McCain v. Hillary, the Dems may not be able to use "flip-flopper" against McCain. Then again, Hillary hasn't been in the Senate long, so I don't know how much "flip-flopping" she's done yet.
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Exactly.Originally posted by Arrian
You'll complain, but you're gonna vote Dem anyway.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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That line was also true of the people running around calling Kerry a "flip-flopper" back in '04. They were voting for Dubya (or maybe Libertarian) anyway.
It's (likely uninformed) undecided voters who may be swayed by such things. Given the US electorate, that's a fair number of people...
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Well I'm not voting for McCain anyway (His incumbent protection act was disgusting) but I still find Oerdin boring.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Am I correct that "incumbent protection act" refers to campaign finance reform?
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That would be a reasonable assumption to make.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Meh.
Could the system really be rigged any further to the benifit of incumbents? McCain-Feingold or no, they had a huge advantage already.
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Re: John McCain vs John McCain
I remember when you guys used to fall all over yourselves praising himOriginally posted by Oerdin
This guy flip flops his way all over the map. Straight talk my ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI
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I intend to ignore him unless/until he wins the nomination. With the primaries safely behind him, then he might be worth listening too. For the time being, however, he's got to woo a portion of the public I have little in common with. It's highly unlikely he's going to say things I would like.
Does that mean he's actually different than he was in 2000? Unlikely, except maybe he's a little savvier.
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George Bush taught me that McCain is a little screwed up in teh head
The Vietnam War was truly a tragedy if it meant that people like McCain couldn't run for President in 2000
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Re: Re: John McCain vs John McCain
I used to like him back when I thought he actually meant most of what he said. Now it is clear he has always been willing to say or do anything to get elected even if it is pandering to scum like Jerry Fallwell.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I remember when you guys used to fall all over yourselves praising him
As Mike pointed out this is more a reaction to the mistreatment of previous candidates.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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