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  • #16
    Originally posted by Arrian
    Why give someone "five life sentences" and then let them out after 24 years?

    -Arrian
    The German legal system is not designed to punish the offender but only to protect the public, so they give EVERY offender a "second chance" as long as they reach the conclusion that the offender does not pose a threat anymore. So only when an offender is still considered an immanent danger he won't be released.
    In Mohnhaupt's case, her full sentence was "five life sentences (for 5 different murders) plus 15 years, 24 of which must be behind bars."
    So the time her parole would begin, in case that it is not to be expected that she returns to terrorist activities, was already included in the verdict.

    That said, the opinion of those who decide on the immanent danger has more than once proven to be wrong, esp. in the case of sex offenders, child molesters etc., which is very tragic.
    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Arrian
      Why give someone "five life sentences" and then let them out after 24 years?

      -Arrian
      Life expectancy is short these days in third world countries like Germany.
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      • #18
        Interesting. I would have thought a life sentence would mean slightly more than 5 years even in Europe. Is this the sameway for all crimes? Why not just sentence her to five years then and dispense with the nonsense about "life" sentences?
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        • #19
          YEah.. it's like, life sentence woudl mean that we can keep your for that long IF necessary. But the problem is the minimum, when you can get on to your probation. 5 years as a minimum from life sentence seems like a joke.

          And this case is a joke. It's a joke. If you give this kind of action to a person like this, what do you really have to do to not get out in minimum time?
          In da butt.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Arrian
            Why give someone "five life sentences" and then let them out after 24 years?

            -Arrian
            Agreed. WTF?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pekka
              It boggles my mind, why anyone would let out a famous terrorist, with multiple murders and no remorce. How do you let someone like that out, _EVER_?
              QFT

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              • #22
                A guy who murders multiple people should not get parole under ANY circumstances.

                WTF Deutchland?

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                • #23
                  Thanks for your post, Wernazuma. It strikes me as a bit odd, but then again it's foreign to me

                  -Arrian
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Arrian
                    Thanks for your post, Wernazuma. It strikes me as a bit odd, but then again it's foreign to me

                    -Arrian
                    Thanks. It's not as if it wouldn't strike me as odd...
                    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                    "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Interesting. I would have thought a life sentence would mean slightly more than 5 years even in Europe. Is this the sameway for all crimes?
                      From what I understand the earliest chance to come out is after 15 yrs for such heavy crimes, but the courts can set this higher to 20 or more yrs depending how serious the individual cases are. In this case the court set the minimum to 24 yrs in jail, and she served those 24 yrs.
                      Blah

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                      • #26
                        Why not just sentence her to five years then and dispense with the nonsense about 5x "life" sentences?
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #27
                          Those who sentenced her the first time didn't decide that she can be released earlier - the minimum of 24 yrs doesn't mean that you come automatically free after that time. They could hardly foresee how the case would develop when the made their judgement (for example, that the RAF ceased to exist in 1998 IIRC).
                          Blah

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                          • #28
                            Those who sentenced her the first time didn't decide that she can be released earlier - the minimum of 24 yrs doesn't mean that you come automatically free after that time.


                            Apparently it does, as long as you keep quiet.

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