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I think I'm overloading soon about few things. First of all, few friends of mine, I kind of sometimes (like right now) burden myself with remembering every single insult and suggestive stuff I've gotten from them in the last... 20 years. Meaning that I don't have like a real problem with any of my friends, it's what happens over a long period of time, none of these insults are even that big. But to me few of them are. Few of them prolly do not realize it.
I don't like engaging in debates with few of them. I don't like the debate my friends, period. Because we sometimes fall into my personal domain, which they have inferior knowledge on, and it frustrates me that I have to explain so much, and clearly the background info is so off base, that it's just no use.
So, in these kidn of situations, I feel insulted. I feel insulted, that many times the rules of reasoning, logic and debate are overrided by the passion for some kind of ideology, or what ever. Almost Godwinizing them, I mean, to me that is an insult if you want to ask me what I think about it, don't start a debate unless you'd be ready to go for some depth and respect the debate itself.
Last weekend was one of those moments again. One of my buddies was drunk, he's very passive and gets more aggressive drunk, but not like violent or anything, or abusive, just not-passive. One of them who can't make the simplest decisions in life. Red or blue, bread or milk. What ever the decision is, there's no way it takes less than an hour to decide what he wants. So when drunk, he just can't see things going any other way than his way. I understand the need for that, but he wants to talk about stuff I don't care about talking when we're supposed to be just having fun. Like politics. I argued, that I don't like the system we have currently, because the parties are too close to each other, and I disagree with the system itself. He did not want to listen why this was so, he started arguing 'they are very different!!!' and then I got the BS that frustrates me, that showed the super narrow knowledge he had on the very subject, as if he had eaten the biggest pie of propaganda of one party or something. I was like damn, completely puzzled, so I decided not to debate but just listen and nod. But then it turned into weird ****ing issues and totally illogical chains of thought so I intervened in few of them but politely as in, "do you really think that? Or is that just your heart saying that's the way it should be?" and stuff like that. So suddenly, without even saying a word, I was hating the poor, the minorities, everyone. I didn't even say anything. And these kinds of things happens to piss me off very very badly. So I just said that I don't agree and I dont' want to talk about this anymore. Then my opinions where 'crap'. Woaah? I don't give a **** if you're drunk, but don't tell me my opinions are crap, when you don't back up your claims, and I don't even participate, and you never listened what I said, and especially when you don't even realize what part I don't agree with. When you have no clue when I say that I disagree with the current system, that what it means. As in, there's only one system to you, because oyu don't even know any other systems exists.
The stupidity was just so freaking high, and the demand to continue, I mean please, let's not.
Sometimes this guy pisses me off. But he is so passive that I don't want to hurt his feelings. And he does not realize when he insults me. It's like, we were having a dinner out, and he said take white wine, I said I don't like white wine. Then he was like yes you do. I said no I don't, I don't know why but I just don't like it. Apparently I was wrong and I do like it. But I don't. It's like frustrating crap like that sometimes. And then I was given this long lecture about white wine, and how I do like it because it is very good. When I really have to listen to this kind of reasoning for a long time, I just find it insulting and frustrating.
Just little things, but oh so annoying.
I hate the way he wants to do things, as in everything planned by the second. And every second of it is 'the only way'. And every second of it is 'good'. The level of detail is 'and then we eat one tomato, after that, a zip of drink x, then a bathroom break, then we go to club Z, we spend 30 euros per person and drink one cafe latte' etc. You know? Just frustrating, and really ****ing stupid. And then when you say well, you're not sure if you want to do it exactly like that but most of ti sounds fun, then it's debate time as in 'it is good. Oh but it is good. Of course it is good'. And if I ask any of it, it just is and I don't get it.
If I just say screw that, I just don't feel like doing that, then he starts *****ing about it, and just sits quiet or something like that. And 'I wanted us to do something together', and I say, well, I don't WANT to do that, let's do something else instead... blaablaablaa. He doesn't give a **** if I disagree but still just go to, just to have it his way. Then he is like 'so, what do you wanna do? You decide', when we're at the spot I didn't want to go in the first place. I say 'I don't know, you wanted to come here'. Then it's all about 'well, you decide'. As in ****, you wanted to come here for a reason, now let's do what you wanted to do?!?!?
I'm not sure if he realizes what he does, which is being very aggressive. I know why this is so, and it's kind of a sad long story, so I do put up with it. And he is my friend, and I really do believe he does not realize it. If I told him, he'd just say 'no'.
OK.. needed to vent some. It's just that I have a good memory and I rarely forget things, so, I guess some of the little things that annoys me needed to be said, because I remember little things from years back, exact quotes, most of them.
I don't like engaging in debates with few of them. I don't like the debate my friends, period. Because we sometimes fall into my personal domain, which they have inferior knowledge on, and it frustrates me that I have to explain so much, and clearly the background info is so off base, that it's just no use.
So, in these kidn of situations, I feel insulted. I feel insulted, that many times the rules of reasoning, logic and debate are overrided by the passion for some kind of ideology, or what ever. Almost Godwinizing them, I mean, to me that is an insult if you want to ask me what I think about it, don't start a debate unless you'd be ready to go for some depth and respect the debate itself.
Last weekend was one of those moments again. One of my buddies was drunk, he's very passive and gets more aggressive drunk, but not like violent or anything, or abusive, just not-passive. One of them who can't make the simplest decisions in life. Red or blue, bread or milk. What ever the decision is, there's no way it takes less than an hour to decide what he wants. So when drunk, he just can't see things going any other way than his way. I understand the need for that, but he wants to talk about stuff I don't care about talking when we're supposed to be just having fun. Like politics. I argued, that I don't like the system we have currently, because the parties are too close to each other, and I disagree with the system itself. He did not want to listen why this was so, he started arguing 'they are very different!!!' and then I got the BS that frustrates me, that showed the super narrow knowledge he had on the very subject, as if he had eaten the biggest pie of propaganda of one party or something. I was like damn, completely puzzled, so I decided not to debate but just listen and nod. But then it turned into weird ****ing issues and totally illogical chains of thought so I intervened in few of them but politely as in, "do you really think that? Or is that just your heart saying that's the way it should be?" and stuff like that. So suddenly, without even saying a word, I was hating the poor, the minorities, everyone. I didn't even say anything. And these kinds of things happens to piss me off very very badly. So I just said that I don't agree and I dont' want to talk about this anymore. Then my opinions where 'crap'. Woaah? I don't give a **** if you're drunk, but don't tell me my opinions are crap, when you don't back up your claims, and I don't even participate, and you never listened what I said, and especially when you don't even realize what part I don't agree with. When you have no clue when I say that I disagree with the current system, that what it means. As in, there's only one system to you, because oyu don't even know any other systems exists.
The stupidity was just so freaking high, and the demand to continue, I mean please, let's not.
Sometimes this guy pisses me off. But he is so passive that I don't want to hurt his feelings. And he does not realize when he insults me. It's like, we were having a dinner out, and he said take white wine, I said I don't like white wine. Then he was like yes you do. I said no I don't, I don't know why but I just don't like it. Apparently I was wrong and I do like it. But I don't. It's like frustrating crap like that sometimes. And then I was given this long lecture about white wine, and how I do like it because it is very good. When I really have to listen to this kind of reasoning for a long time, I just find it insulting and frustrating.
Just little things, but oh so annoying.
I hate the way he wants to do things, as in everything planned by the second. And every second of it is 'the only way'. And every second of it is 'good'. The level of detail is 'and then we eat one tomato, after that, a zip of drink x, then a bathroom break, then we go to club Z, we spend 30 euros per person and drink one cafe latte' etc. You know? Just frustrating, and really ****ing stupid. And then when you say well, you're not sure if you want to do it exactly like that but most of ti sounds fun, then it's debate time as in 'it is good. Oh but it is good. Of course it is good'. And if I ask any of it, it just is and I don't get it.
If I just say screw that, I just don't feel like doing that, then he starts *****ing about it, and just sits quiet or something like that. And 'I wanted us to do something together', and I say, well, I don't WANT to do that, let's do something else instead... blaablaablaa. He doesn't give a **** if I disagree but still just go to, just to have it his way. Then he is like 'so, what do you wanna do? You decide', when we're at the spot I didn't want to go in the first place. I say 'I don't know, you wanted to come here'. Then it's all about 'well, you decide'. As in ****, you wanted to come here for a reason, now let's do what you wanted to do?!?!?
I'm not sure if he realizes what he does, which is being very aggressive. I know why this is so, and it's kind of a sad long story, so I do put up with it. And he is my friend, and I really do believe he does not realize it. If I told him, he'd just say 'no'.
OK.. needed to vent some. It's just that I have a good memory and I rarely forget things, so, I guess some of the little things that annoys me needed to be said, because I remember little things from years back, exact quotes, most of them.
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