Walmart, compact fluorescents and practical environmentalism

[Last Conformist]

Another reason electricity inclusive rents suck - I've got no economic incentive to switch to these babies since any savings would go to the property owners.

[Dauphin]

Energy saving aside, how economically useful are the bulbs compared to regular bulbs. They are more expensive, but they also last a lot longer.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


Of course, these kinds of solutions are precisely what Gore recommends at the end of "An Inconvenient Truth," when he calls for personal responsibility and individual action as well as government action.

Boy, that Al Gore sure is pretty far out there...

Yeah, right. That was all Gore was saying - use this little handy energy-saving lighbulb thingies.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Dauphin
Energy saving aside, how economically useful are the bulbs compared to regular bulbs. They are more expensive, but they also last a lot longer.

I think that I figured it would be worth it, not considering energy use.

But then, I hate changing lightbulbs (and these last a lot longer). For someone who doesn't think about it, cheaper will seem better.

Jon Miller

[Lorizael]

My dad started buying these awhile back. He never shops at Walmart.

[Lul Thyme]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Yeah, right. That was all Gore was saying - use this little handy energy-saving lighbulb thingies.

Nobody said that's all he was saying.

What was said though, is that giving thumbs up to technological solution in a thread about light bulbs and thumbs down to Gore while this specific example was part of his suggested solutions just shows you have no credibility.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Lul Thyme


Nobody said that's all he was saying.

What was said though, is that giving thumbs up to technological solution in a thread about light bulbs and thumbs down to Gore while this specific example was part of his suggested solutions just shows you have no credibility.

No, the thumbs down to Gore does not cast any aspersions on my wider credibility, any more than your apparant support for Gore on this matter undermines your wider credibility. I am not going to get into a Gore debate here, I merely stated my opinion of the man.

[chequita guevara]

Re: Walmart, compact fluorescents and practical environmentalism

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
This is good news. If we truly want to do something about environmental issues, we need to marginalize the hysterical Al Gore/moonbat fringe that currently dominates the debate and let practical and capable organizations like Wal-Mart come up with solutions. Capitalism and technological advancement will save us.

Because these companies would have done **** all if we hadn't been raising the issue for fifty years. The only reason why progressive change happens is because people challenge the status quo. If everyone waited for conservatives to change things, nothing would ever change. They didn't chose the name for nothing you know.

This is the same idiot mentality people used to say to Martin Luther King and to Susan B. Anthony and to Frederick Douglas. Wal-Mart is changing because of the critics, not because they care about the environment.

[Arrian]

I have a number of these bulbs in my house now. Mostly still old incandesants, though. As those wear out, I'll have more & more of the new ones.

The article got me thinking about the total number of sockets in my house.

29 total sockets indoors.

3 old flourescents.
9 indoor floodlights.
2 halogens.
15 normal bulbs, a number of which are the CFLs.

Then there are 4 ourdoor lights... three floodlights & a regular bulb, for a total of 33.

That is a tad more than I expected (guessed ~25).

-Arrian

[chequita guevara]

Most of our bulbs are fluorescent, but we still have one regular incandescent bulb and a halogen bulb.

[Lorizael]

I'm not sure I believe that 50-100 number.

In my house I've got... approximately 35ish? I'm not there right now, so I can't go around and count each one.

[Arrian]

I came up with 33, and my house is pretty small.

-Arrian

[Lorizael]

I live in a town house, which probably counts as small, too. I can't imagine why one would need a hundred sockets, though, in even a moderately sized single-family home.

[chequita guevara]

7 fluorescents
3 incandescents (1 three way, and one placing holding a dead socket)
1 halogen

Not including night lites.

[MOBIUS]

Drake Tungsten shows how backwards he is by thinking these are some kind of major new breakthrough...

I've been using these for about a decade now in all the places I've lived - interestingly the ones I bought back in 1997 are all still in working order! (though I only use those old models as spares (one day I might need one!), or in places like the basement because they take a while to get going!)

What amazes me about the dickheads who still are in denial about the antropogenic origins of global warming, is that most of the most immediate things an individual can do to help the environment actually save you significant amounts of money!!!

Adam Smith!

Given the saving you have already made to your pocket, I expect you will have cut down your carbon footprint by several tons per year!

DT, I suggest you start looking at all those energy efficiency websites - screw the environment, you'll be about to save $000's just by buying energy efficient lightbulbs, turning stuff off instead of leaving it on standy etc... Even you should be smart enough to realise what a no-brainer this is...