Who is your favorite old President

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poor effort

Originally posted by One_more_turn
There were lots of great presidents back then, whom shall I choose from: James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Benjamin Harrison, Rutherford Hayes, John Adams, Andrew Johnson?
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Ted Roosevelt was the worst, followed by Abe Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, and Andrew Jackson.

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[Lonestar]

Lincoln, then George Washington, then Teddy Roosevelt, then Reagan.

The rest are losers.

[One_more_turn]

Re: poor effort

Originally posted by VJ

1.1/10

Why not 0.000001/10?

[TheStinger]

As you clearly mean US presidents, shouldn't you say so

[Ramo]

Grant's underrated. Working class guy who made good and did more for civil rights than any President not named Lincoln or LBJ. 'Course, like everyone else associated with Reconstruction, he was smeared by its opponents (his Admin wasn't all that corrupt by most reasonable standards, and he wasn't personally corrupt).

[One_more_turn]

After lengthy considerations, I think James Buchanan was the best.

[Cartimandua]

I have a great respect for Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Washington. All of them felt the weight of their responsibilities and followed through with their duties commendably. I think that they each left a legacy for future presidents to emulate.

[Alexander I]

I'd have to agree. Theodore Roosevelt is one of my favorites. Heck, I think he was the last really good president the US has had.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Oh, and not to be entirely on the negative, my favorite "old Presidents" was Thomas Jefferson. A great mind who was instrumental in the creation of the Republic. A President who was flexible enough that he was able to make the biggest land purchase in American history, even though it may have conflicted with his beliefs on the Constitution (which says nothing about land acquisition).

Plus he had the whole hating the Islamics thing down cold.

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Plus he had the whole hating the Islamics thing down cold.

Please elaborate.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

He was the first president to declare war on jihadis as remembered in the Marine Hymn. ....From the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli..... Plus he had the really nice Koran that served as a looking glass into the minds of his enemy.


Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates - TJ's Koran

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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates - TJ's Koran (URL = http://thehillchronicles.com/2007/02...n-had-a-quran/)

So that's your source. Here's mine: http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=1254

edit: ...So -- yeah. When I clicked on your post in this thread, I was wondering whether you would appreciate this sub-forum enough to improve your usual post quality we usually encounter in OTF: if your posts had other content than outrageously inaccurate lies repeated from self-congratulary right-wing blogs which have simply made them up.

Well, now I know.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Aside from your normal twittery. The links say fairly much the same thing.

As for your characterization of my use of rightie blogs a) Don't know that my links reflect that one way or the other (OTOH My commentary certainly does) b) if so who cares c) in this particular instance, as is normally the case, I used that uberrightwing tool called Google. Surprisingly enough if you use the key words "Why" "Jefferson" "had" "a" "Koran", My link is the first listed. Do you know something about the site I referred to that I don't as I can't say i have ever gone there before?

Finally VJ, I assume this little exercise helped cure that ohhh soo boring malady you suffer from, boredom. If nothing else it caused you a whole 5 minutes worth of learning to go to an independent source, SNOPES, to verify what I provided. BTW typically what I do before actually posting a link.

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I'm sorry that you didn't get it, but...

I did read the snopes mythbusting-thread when it was originally posted -- id est over a month ago. The "please elaborate" post was simply a bait to catch you from repeating the right-wing talking point based on lies in it's full, the talking point which I had encountered beforehand.

Fact is, it worked: I caught you from lying with your pants down. Now you're trying to spin your credibility upwards by making this personal. I don't really care about what you think about me or snopes or your own source. This thread isn't about any of those things.

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...and that's the end of that threadjack.

Andrew Johnson is a wonderful example of the suckiness of quotas. He was selected as a VP-candidate because (a) he was southerner (b) he was born poor. His (inferior) qualifications for the position were not considered, which is why his presidency was such a disaster -- he was never excepted to be POTUS. Pretty irresponsible running mate selection from the party establishment & Lincoln.

I think Theodore Roosevelt was a favorite of mine. He might have passed less domestic legislation than his successor did, but he was consistently a much better role model for the nation than W.H. Taft ever was. His policies were bold, clarified, and decisive. In a word, he was a leader.