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Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Ladino is pretty much spanish as spoken in the XV century
Ladino is pretty much spanish as spoken in the XV century
Anyway, even discounting the Ladino, fluent in three languages aint bad.
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if we're going to start weighting things by different languages are, and how hard to learn, than doesnt someone who knows, say, English and Hebrew, two totally unrelated languages, demonstrate higher intell than someone who knows French, English (about half the vocab from French, and relatively similar grammar) and Latin (from which French originates)?
Anyway, even discounting the Ladino, fluent in three languages aint bad."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber -
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It's only acceptable to bypass it if you can come up with something better.Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Once you understand the basic structure of a conventional sentence though, it's acceptable to bypass it.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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A good number of Americans are bilingual, anyway.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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"This said, despite the limitations to a proper definition of intelligence I have pointed out, I do rest my case that specific intellectual abilities do relate to intelligence, if only in a nominalist way (as opposed to a positivist approach), and that mastering one or several second languages count amongst them."
is this a round about way of making the point that ghetto kids who dont have need to do certain things that suburban kids do, will not do them so well, and this doesnt reflect any broader "intelligence" If so, I agree, though this seems an odd way of making the point.
Ability to master can only be tested if an attempt to master is made. Finns all seem to manage being trilingual, IIUC. There descendants on Michigan are mainly monolingual in English. A catastrophic decline in intelligence? Not likely.
I see no evidence that the ability to master multiple languages, given early enough exposure, is not universal. If it is universal, than failure to do so only indicates lack of exposure, and has no correlation with intelligence.
I am in regular contact with the hassidic world in NY. AFAICT all the females, and every male who goes into business rather than immersing himself in continuing torah study, manages to be bilingual in English and Yiddish, and manages at lkeast some reading knowledge of Hebrew. This includes individuals with some range of intelligence.
My very strong a priori is that you are incorrect. It would take very strong statistical evidence to convince me otherwise."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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You teach kids not to begin a sentence with a relative pronoun not because it's wrong, but because they can't make the difference between a stand alone relative used as a demonstrative pronoun and one that begins a relative proposition.Originally posted by Lorizael
It's only acceptable to bypass it if you can come up with something better.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Yup. American as primary and english as secondary.Originally posted by LordShiva
A good number of Americans are bilingual, anyway.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven WeinbergComment
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You can justify any violation of the rules of grammar because, in the end, all that matters is successfully communicating whatever it is you wish to say.Originally posted by Oncle Boris
You teach kids not to begin a sentence with a relative pronoun not because it's wrong, but because they can't make the difference between a stand alone relative used as a demonstrative pronoun and one that begins a relative proposition.
That said, contravening standard usages of English - which increases the possibility of miscommunication - only makes sense if you think your unorthodox method does a better job of getting your point across than traditional grammar would.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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Fine by me.Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
I think it is only the ashkenazi jews who are very smart, the other are average
Anyway, even discounting the Ladino, fluent in three languages aint bad.
Depends on the circumstances. I'm fluent in three languages, but I learned them all as a kid. Learning two additional languages as an adult is much more impressive."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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There's a problem with your analysis! I'm American! With my freakishly massive intellect I disturb the average so Americans are highly favored!Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Simple really.
People posting from a country where English isn't the first language demonstrate ability to reason and debate in a second language. Which increases the probability of an higher intelligence and better education.
Hereby I declare your average American/English/Canadian poster stupider than the euros, on a statistical basis.APOSTOLNIK BEANIE BERET BICORNE BIRETTA BOATER BONNET BOWLER CAP CAPOTAIN CHADOR COIF CORONET CROWN DO-RAG FEDORA FEZ GALERO HAIRNET HAT HEADSCARF HELMET HENNIN HIJAB HOOD KABUTO KERCHIEF KOLPIK KUFI MITRE MORTARBOARD PERUKE PICKELHAUBE SKULLCAP SOMBRERO SHTREIMEL STAHLHELM STETSON TIARA TOQUE TOUPEE TRICORN TRILBY TURBAN VISOR WIG YARMULKE ZUCCHETTOComment
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Yeah, trueOriginally posted by lord of the mark
if we're going to start weighting things by different languages are, and how hard to learn, than doesnt someone who knows, say, English and Hebrew, two totally unrelated languages, demonstrate higher intell than someone who knows French, English (about half the vocab from French, and relatively similar grammar) and Latin (from which French originates)?
Anyway, even discounting the Ladino, fluent in three languages aint bad.
I guess a turk who knows turk, english and arabic would be a genius for fake boris, since that individual would speak 3 languages belonging to three unrelated language families...
I need a foot massageComment
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et moi je suis trilingue . je suis le plus beau, le plus fort, le plus intelligent. et heursement, je ne suis pas français."Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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Glad to know.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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How about Hindi, Tamil, Assamese, and English?Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Yeah, true
I guess a turk who knows turk, english and arabic would be a genius for fake boris, since that individual would speak 3 languages belonging to three unrelated language families...
THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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Hindi, assamese and english are related, the three are indo-european
So you only speak indo european and dravidian languages, while that hypothetical turk would speak an afro-asiatic (semitic) language, an indo-european language, and a turkic language...
So he would be smarter than you!I need a foot massageComment
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Nope. Doesn't count since it's just local mumbojumbo and the superior language of a colonizer.Originally posted by LordShiva
How about Hindi, Tamil, Assamese, and English?
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven WeinbergComment
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