The historical Artus (King Arthur)

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I had a feeling that the dates for the Dal Riatan Artiur (son or grandson of Aedan Mac Gabhran)were out, so I checked them out.

He would have been active around 570-590 AD, so he's out of the timeframe for Mons Badonicus. One also has to question why the British Aneirin would have sung the praises of a Dal Riatan invader, so the chances of him being the Arthur of Y Gododdin look dodgy.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

One final point- that site about "Artus" is total bull****.

Check this out-

We know also from historical accounts that his father, King Aidan, was a great ally of the Britons, and that he and his sons, including Arthur, led the Britons in the wars conducted in the North against the Saxons and the Picts.

Actually he repeatedly invaded the British kingdoms of Alclud and Gododdin, and led an alliance of Scots and Irish against British Bernicia.

Father of Britain's greatest hero of the Dark Ages? You be the judge.

[Dr Strangelove]

The legend may be like that of Tristan and Isolde. The original legend was told by the Picts, and the hero's name was Druis. The Welsh changed the name to Tris, then the Anglo-Saxons pronounced it Tristom, then finally it became Tristan. One wonders how a latin name like Ambrosius Aurelianus might have gotten twisted as it passed from the Britains to the Saxons, then the Normans and finally was handed down to the English. Particularily focus on the last name, someone could have easily replaced the l with a th and the n with an r. This could have happened over generations. Of course we have no proof.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

"Ambrosius Aurelianus" has a clear provenance to it, through the writings of Bede (a Saxon).

However we know next to nothing about Ambrosius. Most of the more credible specialists in that era think there were two (possible sucessive) western kings called Ambrosius.