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"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Am I the only one reading Asher has the innate ability to turn gay men straight?Originally posted by Asher
If I had a nickel...quote:
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I did that...a few years back. I'm straight now.
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Re: I want to argue with Asher.
The ideal is there in linux, but you'll find in order to do quite a few things and for cross-compatibility purposes, you'll be using restrictive licenses and DRM here and there.Originally posted by Lorizael
The appeal of running a computer absent the constraints of licenses and DRM and other restrictive policies is also there.
You'll find that with many Linux distributions "ready for the desktop", like Ubuntu, you won't be doing much with programming. Indeed, a lot of it's gotten to fairly decent plug-and-play levels.When I was much younger I used to dabble with computers, programming, and hardware a lot more than I do now, and I would like to get back to that. Stepping into a whole new OS is one way to do that.
Other potential "easy" distributions include Xandros, Fedora, SuSE. The first one is most similar to Ubuntu in its attempt to be as powerfully easy to learn as possible.So what is there to know about Ubuntu and Linux? What should I be warned of before jumping into this? What other distros might I want to try?
Wired? Not very hard. Wireless is a bit trickier.How easy or hard is it to get online,
Easy. Gaim. Or, if you have access to KDE (for instance, with Xandros), Kopete.set up a chat client,
Depends on what they are. Removable/flash devices are easy as pie; mainstream sound cards are easy; wired networking cards are easy. Graphics cards are trickier, as none of them have OSS drivers; nVidia's closed-source drivers are superior to ATi's, but to be honest, unless you want to play games, you don't need the advanced functionality provided by those closed drivers.find drivers for my devices,
$15 for a few months ($15 buys you a subscription for a bit, during which you can download the program and any updates...) will get you Cedega, which will allow you to run many games; you could get it for free by downloading the source and compiling it yourself, but that would require a fair amount of learning investment and time on your part.plays games (*cough* Civ 4)?
I don't know about Ubuntu--I use Gentoo, which is insanely customizable. I'd wager Ubuntu is far less so.How customizable is Linux?
As difficult or easy as you want to make it. Don't operate in the root account, and you won't **** anything up. Though you will need to access it occasionally to install things...How easy is it to **** my system so hard I need to format the hdd?
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JM, let's threadjack! What have you heard?Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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So you're saying that the Neanderthalliconservatives are correct and gays should be forced to be straight??Originally posted by Asher
It's really a tragedy, it pollutes the gene pool. Less attractive people are born every year.
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It impressed my Linux nerd freind (who runs Gentoo or some other distrution that is known to be hard). It can boot of the CD which is a really nice feature (it also installs from that CD so you don't need a DVD or 6 CDs to install).
The GUI looked nice but I didn't play arround with it much.
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Gentoo now has a bootable graphical liveCD.Originally posted by Jon Miller
It impressed my Linux nerd freind (who runs Gentoo or some other distrution that is known to be hard). It can boot of the CD which is a really nice feature (it also installs from that CD so you don't need a DVD or 6 CDs to install).
The GUI looked nice but I didn't play arround with it much.
Jon Miller
That said, I still
Gentoo. Hardness be damned!
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Why can't you run games normally in Linux, and what does Cedega do that allows you to do so?Originally posted by Q Cubed
$15 for a few months ($15 buys you a subscription for a bit, during which you can download the program and any updates...) will get you Cedega, which will allow you to run many games; you could get it for free by downloading the source and compiling it yourself, but that would require a fair amount of learning investment and time on your part.
If things can be tricky, as you say, why do you do it? What does Gentoo have over Windows that you're willing to put up with various complications that may arise?...trickier...Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Because Linux is a different Operating System then Windows. Just like Mac is a different OS than Windows. Why would you expect them to be able to run the same games?
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I wouldn't, which is why I asked about it in the first place.
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Specifically, many of these games use DirectX, which is Windows-only.Originally posted by Lorizael
Why can't you run games normally in Linux, and what does Cedega do that allows you to do so?
Cedega is a reverse-engineering attempt to mimic and translate many of those calls into something useful to Linux. It's fairly good at what it does.
Well, for one, I like spending that time tinkering. Admittedly, Gentoo is a lot of headaches, and it forces you to learn the innards of the system with a decent enough risk of system breakage.If things can be tricky, as you say, why do you do it? What does Gentoo have over Windows that you're willing to put up with various complications that may arise?
I like it more than Windows for that reason--I like to tinker.B♭3Comment
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This thread sucks (now)."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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So would talking about oral ministrations on pee-pees.Originally posted by Asher
This thread sucks (now).
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Feel free to talk about whatever you want, Asher. Gay sex, the failure that is the Ipod, why filosofy majors suck - it's totally up to you. But if you want to contribute to this thread at all, you can tell me all the reasons why Linux sucks and why I should just stick to Windows. You can even finish it all up with a coupleOriginally posted by Asher
This thread sucks (now).s.
Edit: I mean seriously, I put your name in the thread title; I have no right to complain when you threadjack here. But your general asshattery would be of use to me if it were focused on talking about the bad in Linux, so that I can make a more informed decision.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Go ahead and try Linux. The best argument against Linux can be made by inviting casual users to try it as a desktop."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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