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**Dis** · January 17, 2007, 04:39

something about that please help I find funny.

we'll sing you a lullaby. listen up.

my usual advice. think about something other than work or personal relationships. Think about fantasies. And of course the usual: jerk off, warm milk, etc.

**Dis** · January 17, 2007, 04:41

I used to have the problem of waking up around 8 AM. which is when my brother gets up. I still sometimes have that problem. it's especially bad when I have an early meeting, that really screws up my sleep schedule. But I eventually fall back into place.

My problem of late is working out at 1 AM. That gets me pumped up, and I can't sleep after working out.

**Nubclear** · January 17, 2007, 04:47

we'll sing you a lullaby.

Please sing the Russian anthem to me, sir

my usual advice. think about something other than work or personal relationships. Think about fantasies. And of course the usual: jerk off, warm milk, etc.

Shutting off my mind is a significant problem. Often when I lay down, I'll start thinking about everything...finances, people, situations, anticipating events, etc etc...it is frustrating because I'll feel like I need to get up and do something, and so I usually just end up pacing around the room for 2-3 hours.

I've tried "the usual", and it doesn't work

**Dis** · January 17, 2007, 04:50

actually, I had that problem last week. I tried to force myself to think about sex, but I kept thinking about these personal problems I was having with this one person. Frustrating indeed. Sometimes you can't get your mind off certain things. But usually I can.

**Datajack Franit** · January 17, 2007, 04:53

I have this problem very frequently, as I'm having many exams this semester.

Wake up in the late afternoon (6PM), keep yourself busy for the whole day (loads of coffee, reading newspapers at eating at first, internet will keep you active and awake when you'll feel DEAD tired) and go to bed around the same time (still 6PM) the next day. You will sleep approximately 14-16 hours, voilà. It always works. Unless you, er, rest your eyes for a cpl minutes.

**Dis** · January 17, 2007, 04:56

yeah depending on if you are trying for later. You just force yourself to stay up. Civ4 works wonders for that.

Forcing yourself to sleep before you are ready is almost impossible. You might as well stay up, get 2 hours asleep, and be dead tired the next day. That's the day you have to force yourself to stay up to near your normal bed time. You'll still be tired the day after that, but eventually your body will catch up.

**Nubclear** · January 17, 2007, 05:01

Except that I was really tired when I went to sleep a couple hours ago. But it seems to have all disappeared.

Hmm...Staying up for 24 hours straight might be difficult to schedule in, though I suppose it isn't so different than what I am doing right now.

**Datajack Franit** · January 17, 2007, 05:17

Tomorrow I have a huge exam that kept me awake the whole night, I didn't sleep but it's not that bad. But you have to realize that in the moment you relax a little and close your eyes it's over. Try to do something very addictive, look for porn, whatever. Go to bed before lunchtime and tomorrow you'll feel as fresh as a rose.

**Pekka** · January 17, 2007, 06:05

Get a job.

**Proteus_MST** · January 17, 2007, 06:26

Re: Sleep problem

Originally posted by Tacc
I've been having a sleep problem as of late. I've always had trouble getting to sleep, but since Christmas it has been far far worse.
My sleep pattern over the past couple days has been as follows:

Sunday: Asleep at 6AM. Awoke at 3PM.
Monday: Asleep at 7AM. Awoke at 4:00PM.
Tuesday: Fell asleep at 8AM. Awoke at 11AM. Fell asleep at 9PM. Awoke at 11PM.

And I'm not tired anymore. During and after the Christmas holiday, my sleep schedule fractured into two parts: I would fall asleep at 00:00 (12), awaken at 05:00 (5AM), then fall asleep again at 12:00 (12), and awaken again at 17:00 (5PM).

I wanted to use the opportunity today to correct my sleep schedule by staying up, and by the time I fell asleep I was very tired. But now I'm fine again, and its a little concerning to me, because:

A) It seems that within the past day I haven't gotten much sleep, and I would expect to be very tired right now.

B) It seems to be stubbornly resisting my attempts at correcting it, which is bad, because I'm asleep when I need to be awake.

Please help.

As for the length of sleep.
Perhaps you don´t need so much sleep anymore.

There was for example an old lady who just needed one hour of sleep per night and was perfectly well with this.
She didn´t feel tired and always wondered why other people needed to sleep so much

Your brain adapts to your length of sleep by varying the length of the sleep phases so that your brain gets what it needs to recover.
So if your sleep really gets you refreshed and you´re not feeling tired after waking up I wouldn´t see any problem with it

But your sleep patterns on the other hand really look strange. I don´t know if you have ea regular daily shedule, but if not, developt one (for example with fixed times for your meals, working during the day and a time during the evening where you dshut down TV and computer and try to do some rerlaxing things like reading a book, taking a bath and the like.
Your pattern won´t adjust at once, but I think it will over the duration of a few weeks.

**Koyaanisqatsi** · January 17, 2007, 07:26

The only thing that fixes my sleep problems is trazodone a few times a week to keep my sleep pattern stabilized. You wake up dehydrated every morning you take it, though.

**Dis** · January 17, 2007, 15:00

I should also mention that high amounts of caffeine messes up my sleep cycle as well.

**Spiffor** · January 17, 2007, 15:07

Originally posted by Dis
I can't sleep after working out.

Like pretty much every human being

**Fake Boris** · January 17, 2007, 15:09

I told you already.

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