Damn old people

[Zero]

Originally posted by Pekka
ok, so now you really have to understand the cultural differencies here. Don't try to figure it out because 'it doesn't make sense'. OF course it doesn't make sense to you. That's why you do it differently in the first place!

In here it is common courtesy to _always_ call or inform in others ways beforehand (exact time). Because it is convinient for many reasons:

- I might be in the city, doing something, shopping, what ever. So, when I know the time, I can be home waiting.

- I know who is at the door. Believe it or not, this is important to a Finn. To be expecting the door bell ringing.

- So that I can TIDY UP MY PLACE! This is double courtesy, I first off get the warning, so I can make the place nicer, for example for my dad.

- So that I don't have any friends visiting, or that I don't invite them to come. Because then I'd have to dump them. It is also common courtesy to let people come and feel like home, so you don't want 'strangers' hanging around, so they'd have to be introduced. Very inconvinient. If in some places you'd get a call and then turn to your friend after the call, "my dad is coming over", they might say, "cool, I'll say hello and leave". In here, you don't stay to say hello. You go before the visitor actually comes. Common courtesy.

- I might be at sleep. I might be in the middle of some work. I can fix myself if I get a heads up, I don't reserve any stuff to do. Or, if I'm already doing and I get a heads up, I can stop wha tI'm doing with control and not leave things in a mess.

etc etc etc.. so there are tons of stuff, why it makes sense to us. It is important. It is being polite, no matter who you are, oh, and do note that peo ple who come over and usually only friends or relatives, so this does apply to ALL people.

wat u said sounds like it applies pretty much univerally.

despite that, i was merely trying to guess why ur g.pa would have done wat he did ahile assuming he wanst trying to be rude.

because calling people really early and waking them up is just as rude.

[Pekka]

Tuberski, no, it didn't matter what time, I just wanted a heads up regardless.

Sloww, Yes, Grandpa showed his true racist colours. That is, condemning something he didn't understand that was culturally different. I even explained it before his post, thus, he showed his ignorance, and used his knowledge based on stereotypes, that lead to the opposite result. He should be less racist.

Zero, ALL THINGS are universal. Cultures differ, but at the end, it's all human behaviour, so of course it's universal and understandable, once people are ready to give up their stereotypes adn their own 'supremacy' and see taht there are other ways as well. The ones who can't get over it are the racist.

What matters is understanding the context at all times. Clearly, this was wasted on a lot of racist people in here.

[b etor]

Everyone is racist a little bit [or more].

[Tuberski]

Apparently, the term racist is lost on Finns.

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[Pekka]

Oh I'm sorry, I meant to say culturally challenged. So when I say, if someone from .. say... Indonesia eats with his hands, I say haha, what an animal, that guy eats with his hands, then I'm just being culturally challenged?

And then you make another stereotype, apparently all Finns just are stupid, because they don't know stuff like words. Nice way to go around the issue, racist.

[LordShiva]

If my parents ever visited me at 8 in the morning, I'd sure like a heads up too. I'd need to kick the previous night's chick out of my apartment by then

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Pekka
Oh I'm sorry, I meant to say culturally challenged. So when I say, if someone from .. say... Indonesia eats with his hands, I say haha, what an animal, that guy eats with his hands, then I'm just being culturally challenged?

No not culturally challenged, just a jerk.

But not a racist jerk.

There isn't one races that is defined by how they eat or whether they call before they come over.

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[Pekka]

So if I say, we must kill all Mexicans, it's not really racist, because it's not a race we're wanting to kill. Good to remember, Uberstormeniegutzen Tuberski!

[SlowwHand]

Culturally challenged.

It's cool you had a nice visit. I don't think he cares if your place has some debris, as long as you've removed the dead bodies.

[Pekka]

Sloww, yah.. and my place isn't a mess to begin with. I like to keep some level of order. But it was a nice visit for sure. He brought me some home made food

[Hueij]

Great choice in picking a thread title

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Pekka
So if I say, we must kill all Mexicans, it's not really racist, because it's not a race we're wanting to kill. Good to remember, Uberstormeniegutzen Tuberski!

If you are gonna generalize race that much, you still lose.

Grampa Troll is white, you are white, it's not rocket science.

It also depends on why you want to kill Mexicans.

Heil Pekka!

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[Pekka]

Jews are white too, are the of the same race?

What does the intent have to do with racism? If we want to kill them because they are dirty Mexicans, or because we need something from them?

So, in fact, killing Mexicans CAN be a racist act?

[SlowwHand]

Let's go back to these Mexicans for a minute. I'm not done yet.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Pekka
Jews are white too, are the of the same race?

What does the intent have to do with racism? If we want to kill them because they are dirty Mexicans, or because we need something from them?

So, in fact, killing Mexicans CAN be a racist act?

Sure it can, it can also have nothing to do with race.

Not all Jews are white.

Are Jews that aren't Jewish still considered.......Jewish?

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