Famous resource and product exports

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Kontiki
Texan earth shattering stupidity.

Canadian crassness

[Proteus_MST]

As germany was alreadys covered (aside from german wars and german weapons of course ) I post some things whcih were forgotten for the swiss:

Swiss knives
Swiss cheese
Swiss cheese fondue
Swiss pikemen (or, nowadays, halberdiers )

And for the dutch:

Dutch tulips
Dutch butter
Linda de Mol
Big Brother
Joints

[SlowwHand]

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by SlowwHand

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Siro, I thought Israel shifted away from eastern euro (mainly Czech) weapons shortly after '49, and relied on Brit and French weapons tills the mid 60s = Chieftain tanks, Mirage jets, etc. And the rift with France was in '64 of '65, though IDF was far from completing the shift to US and homebuilt weapons by '67.

1. stop attempting to pwn me. I am not old enough to be a weapons historian yet. plus i'm on your side, so if i'm accidentally wrong you're welcome to PM me

2. AFAIK Israel relied on eastern euro weapons for most of the 50s. I did mostly ignore the 60s relations with britain and france. very correct.

3. What was the rift with france about, in 1965? I always knew it was presented by the french as a result of Israeli 1967 "agression".

In 1967 de Gaulle completely overturned France's Israel policy. De Gaulle and his ministers reacted very harshly to Israel's actions in the Six Day War. The French government and de Gaulle condemned Israel's treatment of refugees, warned that it was a mistake to occupy the Palestinian areas, and also refused to recognize the Israeli control of Jerusalem. The French government continued to criticize Israel after the war and de Gaulle spoke out against other Israeli actions, such as the operations against the PLO in Lebanon. France began to use its veto power to oppose Israel in the UN, and France sided with the Arab states on almost all issues brought to the international body. Most importantly of all, however, de Gaulle's government imposed an arms embargo on the Israeli state. The embargo was in fact applied to all the combatants, but very soon France began selling weaponry to the Arab states again. As early as 1970 France sold Libya a hundred Dassault Mirage fighter jets. However, after 1967 France continued to support Israel's right to exist, as well as Israel's many preferential agreements with France and the European Economic Community.

what i said was basically correct: it is the french embargo, and british cooling off towards us, that lead to the growth of IMI.

[Odin]

Minnesotan iron ore

[Pekka]

Considering Algeria, De Gaulle must be a hermafrodite.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

what i said was basically correct: it is the french embargo, and british cooling off towards us, that lead to the growth of IMI.

And IIRC, it was from France that Israel got the uranium to build its Bomb.

Oh wait, Israel doesn't have the Bomb.

[Sirotnikov]

zkib - we got the uranium from the brits, according to what i read,

the french helped us build stuff.

and it was before 1965. We may have had a working bomb as early as 66 according to FAS/

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
We may have had a working bomb as early as 66 according to FAS/

Shhhhh No Bombs here. No sir. Nope. That?? Oh, that's a...uh...a really large ashtray. Yeah, that's it. An ashtray.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Dauphin
USA and the export of Democracy^TM. Accept no substitute.

It took most of 100 years, but it's worked out OK for Europe.

[Zkribbler]

...except for that guillotining 40,000 Frenchmen part.

[notyoueither]

Not sure if you have the right 100 years, Zkrib.

[Zkribbler]

According to Einstein, time varies with the observer.

[BlackCat]

I think that Zkrib's calculation abilities are to be taken with a big grain of salt this evening

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=161634&pagenumber=2

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