If you could get off scot free....

[Aeson]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
It shows.

Guess what law(s) I've broken in my life?

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Solver


Laws should be based off morals. As for it being so, I disagree. First, whose morals? Those of the ministers who make the laws, or whose?

The majority of the population's morals. The deviants are put in jail.

Second, many laws are geared towards the well-being and integrity of state. Like tax laws. Or take the law that it's a criminal activity to threaten the President / Prime Minister / King / whathaveyou. It's a law about state security, it's a law that should exist, but is it really based on morals, taking threats to the ruling person differently than threats towards an ordinary citizen?

You can be arrested for making terroristic phone calls to anyone.
Saying your going to kill or beat someone is assault. If you actually beat them, it's battery.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I know I'll get argument, but laws are based off morals.

Not necessarily.

[Solver]

The majority of the population's morals. The deviants are put in jail.

That's too idealistic (if, indeed, it would even be good). The majority elects governments, sure, but laws are made by a very small minority. They don't even know really what the majority's morales are, and when a government is elected, the citizens don't really have control over which laws it creates.

You can be arrested for making terroristic phone calls to anyone.

Definitely, but if you give me threatening calls, you'll be charged with assault. If you give Bush threatening calls, you'll be charged with something else. It is a different law altogether. Necessary for the state, for sure, but I fail to see a link to the majority's morales here.

[SlowwHand]

It's a limb off the main branch, if you know what I mean.

[Solver]

But still, wouldn't you agree that this shows that laws also take other things into account, not just right and wrong, such as the need for self-preservation on a state level?

[SlowwHand]

Certainly I agree. The perfect time to launch an attack on a country would be in the minutes following an assassination.

[chequita guevara]

So you think it's immoral to smoke pot, Dallas?

[Solver]

Okay, a hypothetical question. Suppose there's a democratic country in which the majority believes that... say, women who can not satisfy their husbands should be stoned to death. As far as the majority in that country is concerned, that's right and moral, for whatever religious or other reasons. So would it be right for a law exist based on these morals? I think not, it should be quite the opposite.

[SlowwHand]

No, and I think it should be legalized and taxed.

[chequita guevara]

How do you reconcile that with your previous statement then?

[Tattila the Hun]

Originally posted by Solver
Okay, a hypothetical question. Suppose there's a democratic country in which the majority believes that... say, women who can not satisfy their husbands should be stoned to death. As far as the majority in that country is concerned, that's right and moral, for whatever religious or other reasons. So would it be right for a law exist based on these morals? I think not, it should be quite the opposite.

Originally posted by SlowwHand
No, and I think it should be legalized and taxed.

[b etor]

I'd commit crimes. Not a lot, but some.

[Donegeal]

[Stalone as Judge Dredd]

I AM the Law!!!

[/Stalone]

[b etor]

Then I shall avoid you.