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  • #61
    Originally posted by lord of the mark
    report is we got the head AQ guy for east africa, who was responsible for the embassy attacks. Some local elder said that dozens of civilians were killed. What credence to give to an elder of a village where a high level AQnik was hiding out is left as an exercise to the reader.
    Or that the US reports of success are frequently found to completely and utterly false...

    Iraq is the biggest lie of all - why not believe a village elder in the face of such a lie?
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      Oh I thought there was a credible report.
      A former Wal-Mart employee talking of credibility!
      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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      • #63
        wtf mobius?
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        AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
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        • #64
          Originally posted by lord of the mark


          report is we got the head AQ guy for east africa, who was responsible for the embassy attacks. Some local elder said that dozens of civilians were killed. What credence to give to an elder of a village where a high level AQnik was hiding out is left as an exercise to the reader.
          1. The AQ niks came and went as they pleased. A bunch of unarmed villagers were not going to change that.

          2. Dropping bombs or shooting rockets at a village that is mostly composed out of very rudimentary buildings... Hmm what do you think happened to the locals?

          And again, why if you know where they guys are, why not drop a sniper ? Clean (i.e. no civilian deads) and good riddance... but indeed, a higher risk.
          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Jaakko
            The permanent cluster**** that is US military involvement is pretty much the kiss of death as far as stability goes, so the Ethiopians will probably regret the whole thing quite soon.
            so true. This is precisely why Germany, Japan, and south Korea are the appalling basket cases we see today.

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            • #66
              Let's not forget Kuwait. They're begging for Saddam to come back these days.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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              • #67
                Originally posted by dannubis


                1. The AQ niks came and went as they pleased. A bunch of unarmed villagers were not going to change that.

                2. Dropping bombs or shooting rockets at a village that is mostly composed out of very rudimentary buildings... Hmm what do you think happened to the locals?

                And again, why if you know where they guys are, why not drop a sniper ? Clean (i.e. no civilian deads) and good riddance... but indeed, a higher risk.

                If they are the low level martyr types certainly they will come and go where and when they please alongst most villagers. However, if indeed it was AQ leadership they would be profoundly stupid to go anywhere the population was hostile.

                There are huge prices on these guys heads and the leadership doesn't like to martyr themselves.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by dannubis


                  1. The AQ niks came and went as they pleased. A bunch of unarmed villagers were not going to change that.

                  2. Dropping bombs or shooting rockets at a village that is mostly composed out of very rudimentary buildings... Hmm what do you think happened to the locals?

                  And again, why if you know where they guys are, why not drop a sniper ? Clean (i.e. no civilian deads) and good riddance... but indeed, a higher risk.
                  these guys tend to have protection around them (probably whom most of the other deaders were) you cant just drop a single sniper. You have to drop a unit. By the time you do that the guys skedaddled.
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • #69
                    It seems like it was a very well organized and coordinated campaign. Ethiopia invades after recieving several years of training and military assistance from the US, Kenya moves it's army north to seal its border with Somalia so that the Islamists can't get away, Ethiopia herds the Islamists into a pocket while the US (who moved an additional aircraft carrier battle group to the horn of Africa just for this operation) bombs the **** out of the Islamists. It's a good mission but I doubt it will have lasting effect unless the Islamists are shot instead of just being allowed to go home where they'll just do the same thing again in the future.
                    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Last Conformist
                      Let's not forget Kuwait. They're begging for Saddam to come back these days.
                      And Panama.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #71
                        America can't do anything right according to these Euro fags. That's why you let proxies do the work for you. No one in Europe gives a **** if Africans or Afghanis slaughter each other, so they can get the job done without setting off the America-hating whiners...
                        KH FOR OWNER!
                        ASHER FOR CEO!!
                        GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                        • #72
                          So Drake, you care ?

                          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                          • #73
                            I think he'd simply say he doesn't pretend to.

                            But then, this is Drake we're talking about. Take him seriously at your own peril.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #74
                              I'm totally serious. Europeans are fags and only care about civilian casualties when America is involved.
                              KH FOR OWNER!
                              ASHER FOR CEO!!
                              GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                              • #75
                                Is that a catch all or does Israel deserve special mention?

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