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Actually, it sure seems happens more in France than it does either in the UK, Canada or the US.
I'd suggest you doublecheck your facts on this. Right in Montreal the police routinely outlaws demos because of alleged security risks, the municipal administration BSes its way out of blocking leftist themed or gay bars in "inappropriate" neighboorhoods, etc.
I'd suggest you doublecheck your facts on this. Right in Montreal the police routinely outlaws demos because of alleged security risks
a) I don't hold up Montreal as being a bastion of free speech by any means. Quebec has the worst history in Canada of trampling all over civil rights.
b) Really? I have no recollection of any recent such action.
c) There's a major difference between outlawing a demonstration and outlawing a soup kitchen. If you hadn't noticed, demonstrations usually take place on public property.
the municipal administration BSes its way out of blocking leftist themed or gay bars in "inappropriate" neighboorhoods, etc.
What the **** are you talking about? "Leftist themed bars"? What the **** is that?
Accepting loose terminology already in use is far different than driving its use. You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "anglo-saxon music", and only the second or third to use the term "anglo-saxon liberalism". Maybe in France it's far more accepted as a way to sneer at les anglais, but it's clumsy wording which there's no reason to let spread any further. In addition, you should note that it makes you sound ridiculous. Calling it "English music" or "English liberalism" sounds far better...
Anglo-Saxon is just a generic way to refer to English language culture, in French. It's sometimes preferred in academic circles, as it puts the US and Britain on equal footing, whereas "English" suggests that it comes from the UK.
I honestly didn't think it wouldn't mean the same to you, though calling someone an ignorant for making a mistake in a second language is slightly uncalled for.
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
a) I don't hold up Montreal as being a bastion of free speech by any means. Quebec has the worst history in Canada of trampling all over civil rights.
Somehow I doubt that Toronto's or Calgary's police is more tolerant of pinko commie demos.
c) There's a major difference between outlawing a demonstration and outlawing a soup kitchen. If you hadn't noticed, demonstrations usually take place on public property.
What they do is make up security concerns in order to cancel demos. How is that more honest than closing the pork soup kitchens on a salubrity technicality?
What the **** are you talking about? "Leftist themed bars"? What the **** is that?
Sometimes militants want to open small cafes where they can meet, eat their pansy bio food, etc. Authorities can't block this in theory, but they've been known to act like asses to them. Remember the "bring your own weed bar"? They had a lot of trouble getting a permit, even though there was nothing in the municipal law that could prevent it (basically the only thing the city could do was to wait for them to light their spliffes and then arrest them).
Originally posted by Oncle Boris
You'll notice that the basis for the decision was the public disorder it created (protestors showed up at every giveaway).
Southern states tried to ban anti-segregation marches because of the potential for public disorder, too.
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Sometimes militants want to open small cafes where they can meet, eat their pansy bio food, etc. Authorities can't block this in theory, but they've been known to act like asses to them. Remember the "bring your own weed bar"? They had a lot of trouble getting a permit, even though there was nothing in the municipal law that could prevent it (basically the only thing the city could do was to wait for them to light their spliffes and then arrest them).
Weed = leftist?
No ****ing wonder you have such a ****ed up view of ****.
The people's potato is up and running, if you hadn't noticed. That's a "lefty" restaurant. Possession of weed is still technically illegal in Montreal. Unless pork soup has been totally outlawed in France, the parallel falls flat.
What they do is make up security concerns in order to cancel demos. How is that more honest than closing the pork soup kitchens on a salubrity technicality?
a) You still haven't provided a recent example
b) It's a lot more honest to claim that it's difficult to provide security for a street demo than for a soup kitchen.
I suppose you wouldn't mind too much if Planned Parenthood sites across the US were shut down because of the threat of bombings...
Are the chicken and beef industry associations in any way behind this?
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