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    Eason Jordan of CNN fame and formerly claimant that US military deliberately targetted journalists for murder sounds off in a slam fest agsint AP and AP's Iraq reporting.


    The AP's Jamil Hussein Scandal
    Controversy Will Haunt the AP Until It Does What is Right
    By EASON JORDAN Posted 16 hr. 25 min. ago
    If an Iraqi police captain by the name of Jamil Hussein exists, there is no convincing evidence of it - and that means the Associated Press has a journalistic scandal on its hands that will fester until the AP deals with it properly.

    This controversy and the AP's handling of it call into question the credibility, integrity, and smarts of one of the world's biggest, most influential, most respected news organizations, the New York-based Associated Press.

    The back story: On November 24, the AP quoted Iraqi Police Captain Jamil Hussein as the source of a sensational AP story that began this way:

    "Militiamen grabbed six Sunnis as they left Friday worship services, doused them with kerosene and burned them alive as Iraqi soldiers stood by."

    It was a horrific report that was an AP exclusive - a story picked up and reported by news outlets across the U.S. and the world.

    The U.S. military and Iraqi officials were quick to call the story baseless, saying there was no evidence that six Sunnis were burned to death in Hurriya and that there was no record of an Iraqi police captain named Jamil Hussein. The U.S. military and the Iraqi government demanded the AP retract the story and explain itself.

    The AP fired back with at least three strong statements defending the initial AP report and provided a follow-up report from Baghdad quoting anonymous witnesses as confirming the original immolation story.

    In the absence of irrefutable evidence that Captain Hussein exists and that the original AP report was accurate, bloggers and a few mainstream media journalists kept plugging away in an effort to get to the truth about whether there is a Captain Hussein and whether six Sunnis were burned alive that day.

    Five weeks after the disputed episode, key questions remain unanswered, but what is clear is the AP has botched its handling of this controversy - and it's not going away until the AP deals with it forthrightly and transparently.

    IraqSlogger's probe into the case is inconclusive, with conflicting and unconfirmed information regarding whether there's a Captain Hussein and whether the reported immolation happened.

    Inquiries by others point to there being no Captain Jamil Hussein, although there is no proof of that.

    While proof might yet surface to substantiate the AP's story - there is circumstantial but unreliable evidence in that regard - conclusive evidence has not yet materialized.

    The AP has steadfastly refused to answer questions about this episode from IraqSlogger and other news outlets and bloggers.

    In statements, the AP insists Captain Hussein is real, insists he has been known to the AP and others for years, and insists the immolation episode occurred based on multiple eyewitnesses.

    But efforts by two governments, several news organizations, and bloggers have failed to produce such evidence or proof that there is a Captain Jamil Hussein. The AP cannot or will not produce him or convincing evidence of his existence.

    It is striking that no one has been able to find a family member, friend, or colleague of Captain Hussein. Nor has the AP told us who in the AP's ranks has actually spoken with Captain Hussein. Nor has the AP quoted Captain Hussein once since the story of the disputed episode.

    Therefore, in the absence of clear and compelling evidence to corroborate the AP's exclusive story and Captain Hussein's existence, we must conclude for now that the AP's reporting in this case was flawed.

    To make matters worse, Captain Jamil Hussein was a key named source in more than 60 AP stories on at least 25 supposed violent incidents over eight months.

    Until this controversy is resolved, every one of those AP reports is tainted.

    When two governments challenge the veracity of your reporting, when there are reasonable doubts about whether your prime named source for a sensational exclusive story exists, when there's no proof a reported horrific incident occurred, when the news outlet responsible for the disputed report stonewalls and is stridently defensive, when the validity of dozens of other of your reports has been called into question as a result, then that news organization has a scandal on its hands, and that is where the AP finds itself.

    Having learned from my own successes and failures and those of others, I know that a journalistic scandal can be handled effectively only when the news organization's management deals with it proactively, constructively, and transparently, with a readiness to admit any mistake, to apologize for it, and to take appropriate corrective action.

    The AP has failed to do so in this case.

    I, therefore, urge the AP to appoint an independent panel to determine the facts about the disputed report, to determine whether Iraqi Police Captain Jamil Hussein exists, and to share the panel's full findings and recommendations with the public.

    Until this matter is resolved, the AP's credibility will suffer.

    Meantime, IraqSlogger and others will doggedly pursue the truth in this case.


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  • #2
    I don't think this will matter in the long run. Anyone with the least bit of skepticism in them already believed the MSM was untrustworthy before this and the rest of the country doesn't care.
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    • #3
      This would be AP's second ding for 2006.

      It seems to me like an inherent weakness of AP's reporting system of local stringers, made more acute by the fact that Western reporters don't seem to leave the safe areas during conflicts and don't verify their stringers' work.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #4
        what's really galling is how they hate to be called on an inaccuracy. Reminds me of the 10 days spent by CBS defending Dan Rather, rather then looking at the story to see if true.

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        • #5
          Kewl Fax about Jamil Hussein

          * Jamil Hussein created the popular kids' games Operation! and Hungry Hungry Hippos. His career took a bad turn, however, after the poorly-received boardgame "Douche-Chills!" and its annoying commercial campaign ("Mom! Sis keeps giving me the shivering douche-chills!").

          * Jamil Hussein was once attacked by a cougar. Once.

          * Justin Timberlake brought sexy back, but only Jamil Hussein can bring pleather back.

          * Jamil Hussein orignated his own style of martial arts, emphasizing flashy leg kicks, ground-fighting manuevers, and shooting people in the face with a ****ing shotgun.

          * Jamil Hussein does not giggle when he hears the refrain "Turn around, Bright-Eyes." He just sighs wistfully.

          * Children all over Iraq look forward each year to Jamil Hussein Day, when they go out in the neighborhood dressed in colorful traditional costumes, festoon trees and houses with brightly colored ribbons, and kick passing strangers in the genitals when they're not looking. Adults are less keen on the holiday.

          * Never speak the name "Bruce Villanche" within earshot of Jamil Hussein. Trust me-- just don't.
          Jamil Hussein Day
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          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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          • #6
            OWN GOAL!!! Iam teh slef pwned


            Iraq threatens arrest of police officer By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer
            Thu Jan 4, 5:11 PM ET



            BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Interior Ministry acknowledged Thursday that an Iraqi police officer whose existence had been denied by the Iraqis and the U.S. military is in fact an active member of the force, and said he now faces arrest for speaking to the media.

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            Ministry spokesman Brig. Abdul-Karim Khalaf, who had previously denied there was any such police employee as Capt. Jamil Hussein, said in an interview that Hussein is an officer assigned to the Khadra police station, as had been reported by The Associated Press.

            The captain, whose full name is Jamil Gholaiem Hussein, was one of the sources for an AP story in late November about the burning and shooting of six people during a sectarian attack at a Sunni mosque.

            The U.S. military and the Iraqi Interior Ministry raised the doubts about Hussein in questioning the veracity of the AP's initial reporting on the incident, and the Iraqi ministry suggested that many news organization were giving a distorted, exaggerated picture of the conflict in Iraq. Some Internet bloggers spread and amplified these doubts, accusing the AP of having made up Hussein's identity in order to disseminate false news about the war.

            Khalaf offered no explanation Thursday for why the ministry had initially denied Hussein's existence, other than to state that its first search of records failed to turn up his full name. He also declined to say how long the ministry had known of its error and why it had made no attempt in the past six weeks to correct the public record.

            Hussein was not the original source of the disputed report of the attack; the account was first told on Al-Arabiya satellite television by a Sunni elder, Imad al-Hashimi, who retracted it after members of the Defense Ministry paid him a visit. Several neighborhood residents subsequently gave the AP independent accounts of the Shiite militia attack on a mosque in which six people were set on fire and killed.

            Khalaf told the AP that an arrest warrant had been issued for the captain for having contacts with the media in violation of the ministry's regulations.

            Hussein told the AP on Wednesday that he learned the arrest warrant would be issued when he returned to work on Thursday after the Eid al-Adha holiday. His phone was turned off Thursday and he could not be reached for further comment.

            Hussein appears to have fallen afoul of a new Iraqi push, encouraged by some U.S. advisers, to more closely monitor the flow of information about the country's violence, and strictly enforce regulations that bar all but authorized spokesmen from talking to media.

            During Saddam Hussein's rule, information in Iraq had been fiercely controlled by the Information Ministry, but after the arrival of U.S. troops in 2003 and during the transition to an elected government in 2004, many police such as Hussein felt freer to talk to journalists and give information as it occurred.

            As a consequence, most news organizations working in Iraq have maintained Iraqi police contacts routinely in recent years. Some officers who speak with reporters withhold their names or attempt to disguise their names using different variants of one or two middle names or last names for reasons of security. Hussein, however, spoke for the record, using his authentic first and last name, on numerous occasions.

            His first contacts with the AP were in 2004, when the current Interior Ministry and its press apparatus was still being formed out of the chaotic remains of the Saddam-era ministry.

            The information he provided about various police incidents was never called into question until he became embroiled in the attempt to discredit the AP story about the Hurriyah mosque attack.

            Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, said Thursday that the military had asked the Interior Ministry on Nov. 26 if it had a policeman by the name of Jamil Hussein. Two days later, U.S. Navy Lt. Michael B. Dean, a public affairs officer with the U.S. Navy Multi-National Corps-Iraq Joint Operations Center, sent an e-mail to AP in Baghdad saying that the military had checked with the Iraqi Interior Ministry and was told that no one by the name of Jamil Hussein worked for the ministry or was a Baghdad police officer.

            Dean also demanded that the mosque attack story be retracted.

            The text of the Dean letter appeared quickly on several Internet blogs, prompting heated debate about the story and criticism of the AP.

            At the weekly Interior Ministry briefing on Nov. 30, Khalaf cited the AP story as an example of why the ministry had decided to form a special unit to monitor news coverage and vowed to take legal action against journalists who failed to correct stories the ministry deemed to be incorrect.

            At the time Khalaf said the ministry had no one on its staff by the name of Jamil Hussein.

            "Maybe he wore an MOI (Ministry of Interior) uniform and gave a different name to the reporter for money," Khalaf said then. The AP has not paid Jamil Hussein and does not pay any news sources for information for its stories.

            On Thursday, Khalaf told AP that the ministry at first had searched its files for Jamil Hussein and found no one. He said a later search turned up Capt. Jamil Gholaiem Hussein, assigned to the Khadra police station.

            But the AP had already identified the captain by all three names in a story on Nov. 28 — two days before the Interior Ministry publicly denied his existence on the police rolls.

            Khalaf did not say whether the U.S. military had ever been told that Hussein in fact exists. Garver, the U.S. military spokesman, said Thursday that he was not aware that the military had ever been told.

            Khalaf said Thursday that with the arrest of Hussein for breaking police regulations against talking to reporters, the AP would be called to identify him in a lineup as the source of its story.

            Should the AP decline to assist in the identification, Khalaf said, the case against Hussein would be dropped. He also said there were no plans to pursue action against the AP should it decline.

            He said police officers sign a pledge not to talk to reporters when they join the force. He did not explain why Jamil Hussein had become an issue now, given that he had been named by AP in dozens of news reports dating back to early 2006. Before that, he had been a reliable source of police information since 2004 but had not been quoted by name.
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            • #7
              Nice Pwnage Ogie

              It seems the AP is actualy at fault for releasing this fellows name if the first place, such a person should have been protected from this kind of replisal if they want to get acurate information
              Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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              • #8
                Why don't they ask me? My opinion is as good as this whine-bag.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  Why don't they ask me? My opinion is as good as this whine-bag.
                  Your opinion of the violence in Iraq is as good as an Iraqi police captain's?

                  Nice new low, Slowwie.
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                  • #10
                    It's rather sad how this story was entirely driven in the right wing-blogosphere by the belief that the state must be telling the truth (and therefore the media must be lying to discredit the state).

                    It's also sad that a Shia militia (Badr Corps) - dominated Interior Ministry is prosecuting a police officer for whistle-blowing on soldiers who failed to stop ethnic cleansing by another Shia militia (the Mahdi Army).
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                    • #11
                      First off, good on Ogie

                      Second,

                      Hussein appears to have fallen afoul of a new Iraqi push, encouraged by some U.S. advisers, to more closely monitor the flow of information about the country's violence, and strictly enforce regulations that bar all but authorized spokesmen from talking to media.
                      Boo!

                      -Arrian
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                      • #12
                        But yeah, things are actually great over there, it's just that teh whiny (or eeevil, take your pick) media overplays the bad stuff!

                        By the way, any retraction from Mr. Jordan?

                        -Arrian
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                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ramo
                          It's rather sad how this story was entirely driven in the right wing-blogosphere by the belief that the state must be telling the truth (and therefore the media must be lying to discredit the state).
                          I would agree with this statement in general. But when two states (Iraq and US) are at odds with AP truthiness then credible doubt exists. Kudos to AP for finally bringing this to light and yes to Iraq for now prosecuting.

                          All that being said I am still teh pwnd.


                          But the guy who pwnd me was a master.
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ramo
                            It's rather sad how this story was entirely driven in the right wing-blogosphere by the belief that the state must be telling the truth (and therefore the media must be lying to discredit the state).
                            If the job of the media is to challenge the state, even sometimes when the state turns out to be right, why should it not be the job of the blogosphere to challenge the media, even though sometimes the media turns out to be right?

                            Believe me, there are many issues where the rightwing blogosphere doesnt trust the state at all. Not generally the same ones where the left wing blogosphere doesnt trust the state.

                            The blogosphere is useful, but if one should mistrust fresh ink, one should even more mistrust fresh pixels.
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                            • #15
                              Hussein appears to have fallen afoul of a new Iraqi push, encouraged by some U.S. advisers, to more closely monitor the flow of information about the country's violence, and strictly enforce regulations that bar all but authorized spokesmen from talking to media.




                              Maybe we're finally getting serious about winning the propaganda war that's so vital to fighting asymmetrical wars like this.
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