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  • #16
    Originally posted by Oerdin
    California has had three presidents all republican. I still can't bring myself to gorgive Ford for pardoning Nixon (who commited vast crimes against the American people and war crimes against the people of indo-China). I think Ford was a good man but he most certainly cut a deal with the outgoing Nixon for some quid pro quo in the form of "give me a pardon and I will make you President".
    FDR comitted war crimes and LBJ commited the same war crimes as Nixon. I wonder why you have never expressed any frustration with the fact that they were never punished?

    Anyway I think that ford thought prosecution of Nixon would do more harm than good and I happen to agree with him. It's perfectly understandable that he would choose to pardon the man.

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    • #17
      as they say - death comes in three's

      James Brown
      Gerald Ford
      ? ____


      side note -James and Gerald both from pnemonia

      what are the odds ?
      anti steam and proud of it

      CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Platypus Rex
        as they say - death comes in three's

        James Brown
        Gerald Ford
        ? ____


        side note -James and Gerald both from pnemonia

        what are the odds ?
        how much time is there before the third death will no longer be considered to qualify as the third?

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        • #19
          a couple of days
          anti steam and proud of it

          CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Platypus Rex

            side note -James and Gerald both from pnemonia

            what are the odds ?
            Pneumonia is one of the commonest causes of death in old people- it tends to finish off people already weakened by other illnesses.
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • #21
              Could Saddam die of pneumonia?

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              • #22
                RIP.

                And actually, Ford was from Michigan.
                Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin
                Iain Banks missed deadline due to Civ | The eyes are the groin of the head. - Dwight Schrute.
                One more turn .... One more turn .... | WWTSD

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                • #23
                  History has seen Ford's pardon of Nixon as the correct move. It prevented bitter partisan divides over the past events and helped the country move on. Ford received a Profile in Courage award later on in his life for that act. It surely cost him election victory, but he thought it was the proper thing to do.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                    Did they really need to throw in the dig at Bush at the end? It's an obituary, for pity's sake...
                    I think it says something about you that you thought a comparison to Nixon was about Bush
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      The dig at Nixon, at the end and in that manner, was inappropriate as well.

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                      • #26
                        It's as if they are trying to create some sort of branding. Some sort of stamp on history. Ford is the nice one, etc. We've seen the same thing with Reagan. The Democrats who fought him on the military buildup (wanting unilateral disarmament...remember the "nuclear freeze") now giving him credit. I say, give it a rest, middlebrow media.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                          History has seen Ford's pardon of Nixon as the correct move. It prevented bitter partisan divides over the past events and helped the country move on. Ford received a Profile in Courage award later on in his life for that act. It surely cost him election victory, but he thought it was the proper thing to do.
                          It muted partisanship for sure, but don't beleive for an instant that most of the partisanship of today finds roots in the oust Nixon movement. That ultimately found fertile ground in the payback "slick willie" movement, and now similarly revisited in the Bush is teh evil movement.

                          Ford by all means did the right thing and things would hav ebeen a lot lot worse had he not pardoned Nixon, but it by no means eliminated partisanship.
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #28
                            I remember the Ford vs. Carter election. It was the last Presidential election where Americas were voting for a candidate rather than against one.

                            BTW: To call Ford a candidate hand-picked by Nixon is misleading. Ford was the consensus candidate of the House of Representatives. He was the perfect choice to. A calm, steady, virtuous man to lead the nation out of the swirling sewers America found itself in.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Zkribbler
                              I remember the Ford vs. Carter election.
                              "There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe..."

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                              • #30
                                There are many that consider that the statement that lost him the election.
                                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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