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Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
What defense do we have against scientifically-motivated scientists and politicians?
What defense do we have against scientifically-motivated scientists and politicians?
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Scientific-based policy is noy too much of a problem so long as people know what they are voting for; the problem lies in trusting scientists who may be trying to pervert policy for their own ideologies through their politically-determined studies.www.my-piano.blogspot -
What defence do we have against politically-motivated scientists?
Give Big Oil more money so that they can fight the lies with the scientific truth and their political championing of it.
One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Profit is a smaller threat than ideology.
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There are plenty of scientists to go around, so there will always be some scientists who will question the recommendations of the biased scientists. Heck, there will always be some scientists who will question even good solid findings. It is the duty of both sides to intelligently present their case(s) in a manner suitable to the general public. It should be the duty of the media to convey those arguements to the public.
Was there something you specifically had in mind?"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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Basically, Spink is worried that reality is biased against his opinions."On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
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Originally posted by Bosh
Park Avenue you're our only hope! Save us from the smart people!Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
There are plenty of scientists to go around, so there will always be some scientists who will question the recommendations of the biased scientists. Heck, there will always be some scientists who will question even good solid findings. It is the duty of both sides to intelligently present their case(s) in a manner suitable to the general public. It should be the duty of the media to convey those arguements to the public. Exactly. It's the whole purpose of peer reviewing - people are free to challenge it and test it. It's what keeps scientists honest.
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I find politically motivated ignorants way more dangerous.Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?Comment
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Originally posted by Jaakko
Basically, Spink is worried that reality is biased against his opinions.
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Jaakko sighting +1Originally posted by Jaakko
Basically, Spink is worried that reality is biased against his opinions.
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Originally posted by Jaakko
Basically, Spink is worried that reality is biased against his opinions.
Unfortunately our society is all to often run by idiots"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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Re: What defence do we have against politically-motivated scientists?
Peer review.Originally posted by Park Avenue
What defence do we have against politically-motivated scientists?THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
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AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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fixedUnfortunately our society is run by idiots
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If they are politically motivated, they are not true scientistsSo get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
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Re: Re: What defence do we have against politically-motivated scientists?
True...as far as it goes.Originally posted by LordShiva
Peer review.
But Park Avenue might be one to something. Usually, scientists perform experiments which can be peer-reviewed by other scientists. I can remember the great break through in "cold fusion" in the late 80's, which crumbled when other scientists were unable to get the same results in their laboratories.
But what about when scientists are making projections? Someone above mentioned global warming, which is an okay example for the purposes of our discussion.
There's plenty of evidence that the globe is, on average, heating up. I'm with the majority who thinks that this is due, a least in large part, to human actions. Others though, think we're observing just a natural cycle. How can other scientist check these theories in their labs?
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