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@ Asher: I agree, but that is neither here nor there. Cute ladies, with no knowledge, at Best Buy.
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Re: Why do people get their panties in a knot over "Happy Holidays"?
Kwanzaa doesn't deserve any special recognition. It was only created to try to force there to be an alternative to celebrating christmas. It certainly was not some pre-existing holiday whose importance was inflated to compete with Christmas either. It was completely fabricated from whole cloth specifically to compete against Christmas.Originally posted by Verto
Happy Holidays can at least be seen as a recognition of the other holidays, like Kwanzaa, that take place at the same time of year. So, what is the big deal? Where do people get off acting as if they are being persecuted, as if Christianity is under attack, when you wish someone a happy holiday?
It's a mistake to pander to that sentiment.Comment
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Not the geek squad types.Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Geek Squad gets your juices flowing?
But the ones that work in the CD/DVD areas and audio, sometimes car audio...are hot. Especially when you go to a young college town."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Re: Re: Why do people get their panties in a knot over "Happy Holidays"?
Originally posted by Geronimo
Kwanzaa doesn't deserve any special recognition. It was only created to try to force there to be an alternative to celebrating christmas. .
Somebody needs to learn about the history of Christmas.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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This is certainly relevant. We do not wish ugly people merry christmas.Originally posted by Verto
@ Asher: I agree, but that is neither here nor there. Cute ladies, with no knowledge, at Best Buy."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Re: Re: Why do people get their panties in a knot over "Happy Holidays"?
And the Romans decided they needed a unifying element, so they took an existing holiday and declared it Jebusday. Both were fabricated for the same purposes.Originally posted by Geronimo
Kwanzaa doesn't deserve any special recognition. It was only created to try to force there to be an alternative to celebrating christmas. It certainly was not some pre-existing holiday whose importance was inflated to compete with Christmas either. It was completely fabricated from whole cloth specifically to compete against Christmas.
It's a mistake to pander to that sentiment.Comment
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Re: Re: Re: Why do people get their panties in a knot over "Happy Holidays"?
Kwanzaa didn't take an existing holiday and transform it. It was a protest against Christmas.Originally posted by Verto
And the Romans decided they needed a unifying element, so they took an existing holiday and declared it Jebusday. Both were fabricated for the same purposes.
For the record I would have been giving the thumbs down to jebusday too in roman times when they offered it as a way to undermine another holiday they didn't like.
It's all in the motivations. A Holiday needs sound foundations or a long honored history to be deserving of the slightest respect.
Jebusday didn't have either of those for at least hundreds of years and Kwanzaa certainly doesn't have either of those and I'd much rather it simply go away to make our lives simpler.Last edited by Geronimo; December 22, 2006, 14:33.Comment
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Re: Re: Why do people get their panties in a knot over "Happy Holidays"?
Originally posted by Geronimo
Kwanzaa doesn't deserve any special recognition. It was only created to try to force there to be an alternative to celebrating christmas. It certainly was not some pre-existing holiday whose importance was inflated to compete with Christmas either. It was completely fabricated from whole cloth specifically to compete against Christmas.
It's a mistake to pander to that sentiment.
I vote we all gather around the Festivus aluminum pole and tell Geronimo how disappointed we are in him
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Made up competing holidays are the best kind:
"A Festivus for the Rest of Us"
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Anyway, christmas is about getting crawling drunk, stuffing yourself till you're violently ill, and generally being a consumerist tool. Can't imagine why the Christians try and defend it.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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Re: Re: Re: Why do people get their panties in a knot over "Happy Holidays"?
Bah Humbug!Originally posted by Zkribbler
I vote we all gather around the Festivus aluminum pole and tell Geronimo how disappointed we are in him
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it is awfully nice to have new ways of offending people by not including their new deliberately competing holiday in our holiday related activities!Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Made up competing holidays are the best kind:
"A Festivus for the Rest of Us"
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Re: Re: Re: Why do people get their panties in a knot over "Happy Holidays"?
actually I've known that since I was a small child and I've looked down at the romans for it (among countless other offenses) ever since.Originally posted by Asher
Somebody needs to learn about the history of Christmas.
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Christmas is all about stealing holidays.
Us Capitalists use it now."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Last Conformist
Anyway, christmas is about getting crawling drunk, stuffing yourself till you're violently ill, and generally being a consumerist tool. Can't imagine why the Christians try and defend it.
Who wouldn't leap at a chance to defend something like that!
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