WWI: What if the U.S. stayed neutral?

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by ElTigre
Molly, save your monitor ink, Ned has left the forum because of an incident unrelated to the WW1/WW2 discussions. He said he won't participate on this forum anymore.

Thanks for the information.

I still enjoyed 'correcting' the misinformation.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Was he in a flame war then? Who with?

Oooh, I'm intrigued now.


Tell me too, bitte!

[basketball]

I think that if they would'int join the war. Then we would be still doing WW1

[Dinner]

It would have been more likely that the German final spring offensive would have been successful but only if they could get France's army to break down the way the Tsarist Russian army broke down. I know French moral was at its lowest point in the war, largely because the French high command just kept issuing orders for the same failed human wave attacks over and over, but really I don't see the war ending differently only taking longer as the mathematics favoring the defender which had held throughout the war (until the very end) would still been in effect and I suspect the French would have been less wasteful with their manpower and even more defensive against German offensives.

[Hauldren Collider]

Mother Of All Necros

[Sprayber]

I thought this looked familiar.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

Highly entertaining thread until it derailed.

[regexcellent]

So uh, do we start from the beginning, or carry on where the thread left off in 2007?

[Dr Strangelove]

Wasn't it beaten to death?
The German spring offensive of 1918 ground to a halt before significant American forces arrived at the front, so it appears that Germany's last attempt at winning the Western fropnt would have failed without America entering the war. After that, there was no direction for the German war effort but down. The bonus from defeating Russia was spent, Germany had nothing more to give, the Ottomans were done for, Austro-Hungary and Bulgaria were on their last legs. OTOH we can't calculate the morale boost to the Western allies in early 1918 of the knowledge that Yankee reinforcement would soon arrive in massive numbers. What we can't determine is whether the western allies would have been able to contain the 1918 German Spring Offensive if they didn't expect relief from America. Certainly they woud not have been able to move extra troops to the Italian and Balkan Fronts hastening the collapse of Austro-Hungary and Bugaria.

[regexcellent]

I like this fellow Ned, cool guy and totally not an apologist for genocide at all.

[notyoueither]

Before the Benaverse there was the Nedaverse.

[BlackCat]

Yeah, Ned was a bit special, but compared to Ben he was sane, nice and decent.

Ned was also "co-discoverer" of clean minerals in SMAC/X.

[Sava]

I like this fellow Ned, cool guy and totally not an apologist for genocide at all.

I figured you would.

[notyoueither]

Yeah, Ned was a bit special, but compared to Ben he was sane, nice and decent.

Ned was also "co-discoverer" of clean minerals in SMAC/X.

Ben has become a lot worse over the years.

[molly bloom]

Ben has become a lot worse over the years.

Ned was fixated on the British and Winston Churchill being behind the world's ills- apparently because Ned has Irish ancestry. Still, he wasn't an outright liar like Sister Bendy and did read your posts and learn from them- even if he did rely on maggots such as David Irving and Holocaust denial websites for his historical information.