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  • #16
    A more logical explanation is clearly Nature's harmonic simultaneous 4-day time cube.
    ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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    • #17
      And from wiki...

      In general, cosmologists consider classical tired light models to have too many problems to be worth serious consideration, e.g. [13]. Tired light alone does not provide a full cosmological explanation and so cannot reproduce all the successes of the standard big bang cosmology. No tired light theory is known that by itself correctly accounts for the observed time dilation of distant supernovae light curves [14], the black body spectrum or anisotropy of the cosmic microwave background, and the observed change in the morphology, number count, and surface brightness of high redshift galaxies and quasars. Furthermore, the fact that the age of the oldest stars is roughly equal to the inverse of the Hubble constant emerges naturally from a Big Bang cosmology, but is an unexplained coincidence with most tired light models.
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      • #18
        You are enslaved by WORD. No whip or shackle required.
        ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MRT144
          nediverse is exploding with infinite insanity
          QFT.

          Ned, let me know when you get a science degree much less a PHD in cosmology.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            The universe didn't always exist, physicist or not.
            Scientists can't explain how the matter involved in the "Big Bang" occured, without God.
            It's always the show stopper. "Uh, well... ."
            But who created god?
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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            • #21
              Everyone laugh at slow for not knowing basic scientific principle. Someone explain to him what E=MC^2 means.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #22
                Eminem is MC Hammer taken to the second level.
                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                • #23
                  I'm glad I'm a biochemist and we just play God instead of having to explain Him like the physicists do.
                  Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
                  -Richard Dawkins

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                  • #24
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: No Big Bang

                    Originally posted by EPW


                    There is only one major galaxy that is blue-shifted, the Andromeda galaxy. And its coming toward us because its in our local group(which means it is in relatively close proximity), and the Milky Way and Andromeda are attracted gravitationally. This doesn't mean that expansion isn't true, because its the clusters of galaxies that are expanding away from each not individual galaxies in the same cluster.
                    Thanks, EPW. Did you read the cited article?
                    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Oerdin


                      QFT.

                      Ned, let me know when you get a science degree much less a PHD in cosmology.
                      Oerdin, are you denigrating curiosity? Besides, I merely posted the article, summarized it and asked our forum's physicists to comment on it. I am not an advocate of the theory.
                      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                      • #26
                        BTW, doesn't Einstein's General Theory already predict that light will undergo a redshift as it passes through space-time?
                        http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                        • #27
                          Here is another article that asks why expelled objects from galaxies have much greater redshifts than the parent galaxy. He suggests that one explanation could be that redshifts could be associated with age, with younger matter having greater redshifts. The suggestion is that fundamental particles acquire mass over time.



                          Still another article (don't have a link now) suggests that as time progresses, gravity is reduced. If this is caused by a reduction in mass, then that would seem to be the exact opposite of the preceding theory because as time progressed, there would be redshift. This would help explain why older galaxies are redshifted, but would not explain why ejected (new) matter has greater redshifting that older matter.
                          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by joncha
                            A more logical explanation is clearly Nature's harmonic simultaneous 4-day time cube.
                            TIME CUUUUUBE!!!!
                            1011 1100
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                            • #29
                              Re: Re: Re: Re: No Big Bang

                              Originally posted by EPW


                              There is only one major galaxy that is blue-shifted, the Andromeda galaxy. And its coming toward us because its in our local group(which means it is in relatively close proximity), and the Milky Way and Andromeda are attracted gravitationally. This doesn't mean that expansion isn't true, because its the clusters of galaxies that are expanding away from each not individual galaxies in the same cluster.
                              But this is actually confirmation of the theory espoused by the author. Only one galaxy in the whole universe is blue shifted because it is close, not because it is the only galaxy moving towards Earth.
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Starchild
                                I'm glad I'm a biochemist and we just play God instead of having to explain Him like the physicists do.
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                                "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
                                "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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