Senate Report: Gore Lies, Media Biased, Advocates Misrepresent

[Ned]

Global Warming is not a settled debate, so says a US Senate report.

http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=266711

The Senate Committee report is particularly harsh on Gore, the Media and biased advocates. It names CBS News “60 Minutes” Scott Pelley, ABC News reporter Bill Blakemore, CNN’s Miles O’Brien, and former NBC Newsman Tom Brokaw as being among the media liars.

The tide of opinion appears to be changing:

"[R]enowned French geophysicists and Socialist Party member Claude Allegre, converted from a believer in manmade catastrophic global warming to a climate skeptic. This latest defector from the global warming camp caps a year in which numerous scientific studies have bolstered the claims of climate skeptics.

Scientific studies that debunk the dire predictions of human-caused global warming have continued to accumulate and many believe the new science is shattering the media-promoted scientific “consensus” on climate alarmism."

[Jon Miller]

It is the politicization of science that I find troubling. Sure, global warming is a decent theory. But proponents of the theory advocate it very fanatically, which limits discussion (Which still needs to take place).

JM

[Ned]

Jon, what is particularly troubling is that they try to silence the skeptics and move on to radical solutions by saying there is no debate, etc., when, in fact, the opposite is true.

I never before (at least that I can recall) said anything that could remotely be construed as positive about a Socialist, but I admit my heart was warmed when I read that bit about the renowed French geophysicist and Socialit Party member changing his views. I had no idea that a Socialist could be honest on this or any other issue where leftist "groupthink" was involved.

[Dis]

all I know it's in the 60's outside. That's damn warm.

of course, I live in the desert.

[Impaler[WrG]]

I've skimed the report and from what I can see it is a compilation of speaches by a single Republican Senator, and refereces to non-scientific articles in popular publictions. Attacks on the media constitute the bulk of the work. No new research is aparent.

The tide of opinion appears to be changing:

The Nediverse must be asserting itself very forcefully today for you to belive that a rather un-impressive pamplet from a single senator could possibly reverse the tide of opinion created by Gore's Inconvenient Truth.

[Spiffor]

"[R]enowned French geophysicists and Socialist Party member Claude Allegre, converted from a believer in manmade catastrophic global warming to a climate skeptic. This latest defector from the global warming camp caps a year in which numerous scientific studies have bolstered the claims of climate skeptics.

I've never heard of him being renowned on climatologic grounds. He is a geologist and geochemist (as well as a doctor in poli-sci).

He was an active (and provocative) education minister for years, one of the top dogs of the French government. He is renowned for taking deliberately unorthodox positions. His role as a government member is what makes him famous to the general public. His contribution to science are fully unknown.

If you wanted to use him as an example of how the world public opinion is changing about global warming (in this case, the French public opinion), you'd be disappointed: the environment and the fight against greehouse gas has become one of the top issues in the current presidential campaign.

[Ned]

I assume the Socialist candidate is leading the charge against capitalism as the cause of global warming.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ned
I assume the Socialist candidate is leading the charge against capitalism as the cause of global warming.

No. The Socialist candidate is very lukewarm. Except when she openly opposes Iran getting civilian nuclear energy (during her official tour in Israel, no less).
The only people leading the charge against capitalism are the various brands of commies, and the Green party also promotes a different economic system, in an aim of environmental and social responsibility.

The reason why the environment is high on the agenda is because former TV-star Nicolas Hulot (not a member of the green party by any stretch of the imagination) is promoting environmental politics, but could support any candidate that endorses his political progmram.

Nicolas Hulot is a popular figure, but the popularity of his issue doesn't come in a vacuum either: Gore's movie had been fairly influencial here (though we all know that climate change is occuring because of greenhouse gases already - there is no controversy about it in the general public). And the report from Nick Stern has added to the general awareness.

[Ned]

You guys in France are way ahead of the curve on this issue due to your reliance on nuclear power. Since you are doing so well now, what is the debate about?

[Gatekeeper]

Wow. I guess politicians are smarter than, say, the majority of the world's scientists.

FWIW, I think global warming isn't strictly caused by humans. Rather, it's a combination of human *and* natural factors coming together in a way we haven't seen before. It's effects are already unfolding, and it's only going to get worse before it gets better.

Gatekeeper

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ned
You guys in France are way ahead of the curve on this issue due to your reliance on nuclear power. Since you are doing so well now, what is the debate about?

Car-related pollution mostly
Waste disposal as well
And generally speaking, sustainable development: climate change isn't the only environmental issue we need to adress, but also the risk of running short of resources

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
It is the politicization of science that I find troubling.

JM

Me too.

[KrazyHorse]

Me too.

Global Warming is not a settled debate, so says a US Senate report.

[BlackCat]

Just to balance Wycoffs quote.

Originally posted by Jon Miller
But proponents of the theory advocate it very fanatically, which limits discussion (Which still needs to take place).

JM

[Ned]

Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
The Nediverse must be asserting itself very forcefully today for you to belive that a rather un-impressive pamplet from a single senator could possibly reverse the tide of opinion created by Gore's Inconvenient Truth.

When the Truth is Inconvenient, Lies must Die.