Is "Eragon" just a cheap LOTR rippoff?

[BeBMan]

Saw a trailer of the movie, it will be in the theatres next week or so. Does anybody know that Eragon stuff better and wants to enlighten me?

[Kuciwalker]

Yes. There is nothing original in the book.

[Barnabas]

It is a shame it has some fine actors in it

[DaShi]

Looks to be a rather expensive LoTR ripoff.

[Lorizael]

Star Wars, too. It's a knockoff of Star Wars, too, that is.

[Aabraxan]

I thought the book was a pretty good read.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I was under the impression it was a Dragonriders of Pern ripoff.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Aabraxan
I thought the book was a pretty good read.

My opinion of you just dropped (and I hardly even know who you are!) .

[Dis]

who cares if it's just a ripoff if it's a good movie?

[Impaler[WrG]]

Star Wars, too. It's a knockoff of Star Wars, too, that is.

Which is itself just a rip of of the Arthurian Legend, which LotR is also ripping off though to a lesser degree.

As we can see nothing original was produced betwee the Legend of Kind Arthur and the Twilightzone and nothing sinse

[Cyclotron]

Is [insert fantasy book/movie/game] just a cheap LOTR rippoff?

The answer to this question is always yes.

[Lorizael]

Uh un. Star Wars is a rip off of much more than just Arthurian legend. It's even a rip off of things not Western, which lessens the likelihood that you can trace it back to Arthurian legend in the end.

What differentiates Star Wars from Eragon, in my opinion, is that Star Wars had a cliched story that was presented in a novel way, whereas Eragon is just so much cliched, high fantasy crap.

[lord of the mark]

No.

I havent read Dragonriders of Perm, but from what POTM says its much closer to that than to LOTR. LOTR is magic-lite - there are only a few magic users, and their magic tends to the subtle (with some exceptions). Eragon, is more like DnD where magic is almost routine. and then theres the dragon riding and stuff. I mean theres elves and dwarves, but thats totally standard in fantasy lit.


The plot is really a ripoff of Star Wars. POTM and I discussed the parallels between the plot of the first book (Eragon) and Ep4 of SW, to the point where she decided she didnt want to see SW movies cause they would spoil the Eragon series. Fortunately she relented, and the second book seems to have veered off (Somewhat) from SW. Though not entirely.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Uh un. Star Wars is a rip off of much more than just Arthurian legend. It's even a rip off of things not Western, which lessens the likelihood that you can trace it back to Arthurian legend in the end.

I assert that Star Wars is about 80% Arthurian, 10% Pulp Sci-fi and 10% Original Lucas. I see no non-western influence beyond the light saber being stylisticly closest to a katana.

If you would like to go into details I sugjest we start a new thread.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


My opinion of you just dropped (and I hardly even know who you are!) .

Im reading it cause POTM made me. Well I read the first book, and am reading the second. The things we do for love!

Really the first wasnt TOO bad, considering the author was 15. At least it had a few nice scenes. Sometimes it was painful seeing the author strive to write in a more" adult" way than he was really capable of. Id hoped the second book would be better as the author is older, but unfortunately hes gotten more ambitious = he could probably do a workmanlike job with the first book now, but instead hes tried to get into political and psychological stuff that, again, you can feel him struggling to master.