Death of a Child vs Deatn of an Adult

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by OzzyKP


Yet of course you are allowed (and often encouraged) to hit children if they do something you don't like. No one seems concerned over the fact that they are far smaller and weaker when it comes to allowing a 200 lbs. man to hit them with a belt.

What county are you in? Other than by a few tough love types corporal punishment, except where the child is doing something physically dangerous, is discouraged by all books on parenting, etc. And even the tough love types arent in to the hitting with belt stuff of yesteryear, I think. NOt that id know I dont read that stuff. Now some parents DO hit, im not denying that, but I dont see it encouraged much in the USA.

[Geronimo]

Re: Death of a Child vs Death of an Adult

Originally posted by Eli
What's worse?

Let's say that a child is someone younger than 10 years.

I don't remember myself as a kid actually thinking about what I'm doing. It was like being a machine. Something happens, you automatically react and that's it. No ideals, no plans, almost no awareness.

With babies it's even more extreme. All they do is drool and make unpleasant smells and noises.

So why do we treat the death of a kid as something more tragic than the death of an adult? Isn't the life of a 40 years old man more precious than the life of a 1 year old drooling machine that's not even self aware?

I was the exact opposite as a kid. It was kids like you giving the rest of us a bad reputation.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by rah
And No parent should ever have to bury one of their children.

Having done so I couldn't agree more. Perhaps the only thing worse is the loss of a spouse.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Having a chance. Same argument that applies to abortion. You may have just killed the cure for cancer.

Statistics would say that there are a way higher probability that abortion has prevented thousands of serial killers

OT, I think it's in the genes. The loss of a child means your genes has lost the race.

Besides that, there is the emotional part - people gets into a frenzy over babies and that diminishes when they grow up and become equals.

[Pekka]

I agree with most, I think it's worse when it's a child because they never had a chance to experience most of the stuff. An adult at least had some more time.

[Dr Strangelove]

OK Eli, what exactly have you done? C'mon man, 'fess up. Where's the body?

Children are the very reason for the existence of love. Without the existence of kids why would we bother? On a psychological level nothing matures a person like raising a kid. Parenting is like getting a Ph.D. in love. There is point in life where giving love is as satisfying, perhaps even more than satisfying than being loved. It's not even the anticipation of the child's accomplishments yet to come, it's the serene knowledge that you are the very ground upon which this small person stands. It's like being connected to nature in a way more primal than watching a sunset from a mountain top or sitting at the edge of the ocean at daybreak. To kill a child is to rip that away from the parent. It's like a two - for - one snuff, and furthermore it sends ripples of fear and despair throughout the community of parents.

So I say to you, what goes on between a man and a dead juvenile goat is NOT a crime.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
OK Eli, what exactly have you done? C'mon man, 'fess up. Where's the body?

So I say to you, what goes on between a man and a dead juvenile goat is NOT a crime.

Who says that the goat are dead and it actually is the death of their offspring he is worried about ?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
OK Eli, what exactly have you done? C'mon man, 'fess up. Where's the body?

Children are the very reason for the existence of love. Without the existence of kids why would we bother? On a psychological level nothing matures a person like raising a kid. Parenting is like getting a Ph.D. in love. There is point in life where giving love is as satisfying, perhaps even more than satisfying than being loved. It's not even the anticipation of the child's accomplishments yet to come, it's the serene knowledge that you are the very ground upon which this small person stands. It's like being connected to nature in a way more primal than watching a sunset from a mountain top or sitting at the edge of the ocean at daybreak. To kill a child is to rip that away from the parent. It's like a two - for - one snuff, and furthermore it sends ripples of fear and despair throughout the community of parents.

So I say to you, what goes on between a man and a dead juvenile goat is NOT a crime.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
No, no, no. All teenagers need to be whacked.

fixed.

[Pyrodrew]

Will someone please think of the children!

I for one welcome our new baby and children overlords.
Lots of Helen Lovejoys out there and even some mr.helen lovejoys.

On a psychological level nothing matures a person like raising a kid.

If that's true nothing will mature some of the parents I know.

It's like being connected to nature in a way more primal than watching a sunset from a mountain top or sitting at the edge of the ocean at daybreak. To kill a child is to rip that away from the parent. It's like a two - for - one snuff

So a polygamous family could have a 10 for 1 snuff?
If you kill a parent that child is ripped away from that connection too - still a "two-for-one" snuff.
Some like Ogie might feel a deeper loss for a spouse or girl/boy-friend or best friend.

The difference is new fathers/mothers seem to feel exceptionally emotional over their new young children and the media/advertisers love that.

I was trapped in a meeting recently where a VP decided to ramble into a 15minute "BabyCutefest" about his daughter dressed like a carrot for halloween and how he would kill anyone for waking her up, bothering her, etc. etc. Meanwhile I was thinking "yeah yeah I get it you're Mr.Macho Dad."

That aside, I'll say in advance "only parents understand... when you get to be a parent you'll understand because it's something so... deep it cannot be explained... so until then hush!"
Don't get me wrong, I really like babies and children - they're delicious.

[centrifuge]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

Children are the very reason for the existence of love. Without the existence of kids why would we bother? On a psychological level nothing matures a person like raising a kid. Parenting is like getting a Ph.D. in love. There is point in life where giving love is as satisfying, perhaps even more than satisfying than being loved. It's not even the anticipation of the child's accomplishments yet to come, it's the serene knowledge that you are the very ground upon which this small person stands. It's like being connected to nature in a way more primal than watching a sunset from a mountain top or sitting at the edge of the ocean at daybreak.

Not so sure about the goat portion, however

[Terra Nullius]

What's worse?

Killing an adult, definitely. Such a waste!

All that effort for nothing. You wanna make people really hate? You gotta kill the kids.

So I say to you, what goes on between a man and a dead juvenile goat is NOT a crime.

Dead juveniles

Goats

[Cort Haus]

Re: Death of a Child vs Death of an Adult

Originally posted by Eli
Isn't the life of a 40 years old man more precious than the life of a 1 year old drooling machine that's not even self aware?

Yes. 1 year old drooling machines are much easier to replace.

[BeBMan]

Re: Death of a Child vs Death of an Adult

Originally posted by Eli
So why do we treat the death of a kid as something more tragic than the death of an adult?

Because of the view that the weak deserve special care and protection.

[Cort Haus]

It's about emotion over reason. Adults are designed to be protective and emotional about children.

The reality is, if the bread-winner dies, the whole family is in big trouble. If the baby dies, it's very bad for the baby, but not as bad for the rest of the family.