The Barbarism of the Buddha

[Dr Strangelove]

Go read Buddha's teachings and pay close attention to the references to women. Buddha considered women to be inherently treacherous and subversive to a man's soul. He literally gives them less status than livestock. This 'pacifist' teacher condoned the beating of women.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by General Ludd

Is that one of them Living Buddhas, like in Inuyasha? You know, one that is buried alive so that his spirit can forever protect a village from demons.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Go read Buddha's teachings and pay close attention to the references to women. Buddha considered women to be inherently treacherous and subversive to a man's soul. He literally gives them less status than livestock. This 'pacifist' teacher condoned the beating of women.

That's bad. Really bad. I had no idea he did that. This is the Mahayani Buddha or the Hinayani or the Vajrayani Buddha? Because IIRC, women were allowed to be monks in the Buddhist monastic order in later times in India.

What's the reference, BTW?

[Dr Strangelove]

I stayed in a hotel in San Francisco that had the teachings of Buddha in the bedstand drawer instead of a Gideon's bible. I don't know which denomination it was asociated with, though I believe that the hotel was owned by a Japanese corporation, so it may have belonged to whichever denomination predominates in Japan.

[Drake Tungsten]

No particular denomination predominates in Japan. If I had to guess, however, I would say that it was probably Jodo Shinshu. They seem to have the most effective proselytizing apparatus, both within Japan and abroad.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I stayed in a hotel in San Francisco that had the teachings of Buddha in the bedstand drawer instead of a Gideon's bible. I don't know which denomination it was asociated with, though I believe that the hotel was owned by a Japanese corporation, so it may have belonged to whichever denomination predominates in Japan.

This intrigues me. I'll have to study Buddhism in more detail now. Unfortunately, it is well-nigh impossible to get a copy of the Buddhist scriptures in English, there being so damn many of them, and each scripture set being different for different schools.

[Zero]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha

In Buddhism, a buddha (Sanskrit बुद्ध) is any being who has become fully awakened (enlightened), has permanently overcome greed, hate, and ignorance, and has achieved complete liberation from suffering.

In short, buddha is boh fat, skinny, muscular, short wahtever.

Siddhartha Gautama, the founder was a prince. He's thought to be handsome and well fit. If u were rich im sure u could afford to look good.

Hotei, the obese, Laughing Buddha, usually seen in China (This figure is believed to be a representation of a medieval Chinese monk who is associated with Maitreya, the future Buddha, and is therefore technically not a Buddha image.)

[Zero]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
No particular denomination predominates in Japan. If I had to guess, however, I would say that it was probably Jodo Shinshu. They seem to have the most effective proselytizing apparatus, both within Japan and abroad.

i think its actually zen thats more dominant cause of shamanistic belief thats so prevalent in japanese culture.

[Drake Tungsten]

Zen is vastly outnumbered in terms of practioners by schools like Jodo Shinshu and Nichiren. Zen, along with Tendai and Shingon, has generally been the province of the elites in Japan.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by aneeshm



This intrigues me. I'll have to study Buddhism in more detail now. Unfortunately, it is well-nigh impossible to get a copy of the Buddhist scriptures in English, there being so damn many of them, and each scripture set being different for different schools.

I wasn't aware that there was that much diversity of Buddhist scripture. I thought that the difference among the various denominations was primarily in the interpretation. The various Christian bibles are fairly consistent, primarily differing in wording. Is there a historical Buddhist scripture from which all the others were derived still in existence or when Buddhism was eradicated in India did the older Indian scriptures disappear too?

[aneeshm]

All the old Buddhist (and Hindu) universities (and attached libraries) were pretty much razed to the ground (and burnt) by the Muslim invaders. Islam finished Buddhism in India, because they destroyed the monasteries, which were the fountainheads of Buddhist thought.

The scriptures probably survive, however, somewhere. It is a pity that they have not been systematically catalogued even today, and have not been translated into English.

[Nubclear]

Re: Re: The Barbarism of the Buddha

Originally posted by BeBro


I'm surprised Tass didn't explain you the reason for this, which is simply that Buddha exterminated all his enemies, so there's nobody left to speak out the truth.

Hmm? Being a PhilosophyBuddhist, I don't see why I'd ever say such a thing.
Of course, the crimes that occured in the name of Buddhism in Tibet....

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by aneeshm
All the old Buddhist (and Hindu) universities (and attached libraries) were pretty much razed to the ground (and burnt) by the Muslim invaders. Islam finished Buddhism in India, because they destroyed the monasteries, which were the fountainheads of Buddhist thought.

The scriptures probably survive, however, somewhere. It is a pity that they have not been systematically catalogued even today, and have not been translated into English.

So even though there are somewhere around one billion or more Buddhists in the world none of them are sufficiently interested in the history of their religion to make a systematic study of its scriptural origins?

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


So even though there are somewhere around one billion or more Buddhists in the world none of them are sufficiently interested in the history of their religion to make a systematic study of its scriptural origins?

If they are, they've done a rather thorough job of not doing it in English. I'm sure that there are tons of Japanese commentaries on every Buddhist scripture known, along with a strict classification of all of them. But the point is, they're in Japanese! When I go to http://www.sacred-texts.com, I don't find a systematic, organised set of Buddhist scriptures, the way you do for all other major religions.

[DaShi]

Buddha was very wise. He knew that the path to enlightenment could never be realized if someone told you how to do it. Thus, they are best left lost.