CDN Politics - Liberal Leadership race

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Wezil
What promises has he kept?

There were the big 5.

GST cut.
Federal Accountability Act.
Get tough on gun crime
Child care credits for all families
Talking with the provinces about the fiscal imbalance.

What hasn't he done?

[cinch]

Who cares about the federal Liberals, anyway?

Down with Ted Morton!!!

[notyoueither]

I take it you are not a fan of Ted Morton.

[KrazyHorse]

I have no clue who the **** I'm going to vote for next general election.

Conservatives: no
Liberals: puke
Bloc: **** no
NDP: can't vote for them next time. Pussying out on Afghanistan is too much for me.
Green: why should I vote for them? I don't give a **** about their major platform plank, and the rest of their platform is pretty weak.

[notyoueither]

I could vote Conservative, Green, or Liberal depending on the candidates they put up for me. The NDP could get a vote if they managed to put Christ up as a candidate in my riding.

[notyoueither]

Lowering the bar a little for the NDP, I could see myself voting for Ed Broadbent as an MP. Unfortunately they can't run Ed in all the ridings.

[Cyclotron]

Ignatieff's speech was fascinating to me in its treatment of my country. I always want to see more of how the US is discussed in the political discourse of other countries.

Okay, sorry for the derail, continue in Canadian-ness.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Wezil


Rae can win Ontario and is the largest threat to the Conservatives.

I tell you right here, right now, that poll is bunk.

No way, no how would a majority of Albertans be in favour of an ex NDP premeir of Ontario who ****ed things up royally as the PM in waiting.

[notyoueither]

Oh, and Harper doesn't need urban Ontario. He didn't need Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver last time. As long as things hold in Quebec, urban Ontario can kiss its influence goodbye.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by notyoueither


There were the big 5.

GST cut.
Federal Accountability Act.
Get tough on gun crime
Child care credits for all families
Talking with the provinces about the fiscal imbalance.

What hasn't he done?

GST - Yes, he cut it by 1% then did nothing to ensure it was passed on by lower levels of government. Well done. Also, simultaneously RAISED the lowest tax bracket from 16% to 16.5%. Net loss.

FAA - The federal accountability commissioner claims this Act will make the Federal government LESS accountable. Kind of like the "Clean Air Act" - Call it one thing when it is actually the opposite.

Tough on Crime - Nothing passed and not likely to. W/O consultation with others in parliament this is just political grandstanding.

Child Care - Granted. He did do this.

Talking w/ Provinces - As with Gun crime - keep talking.

What hasn't he done? Delivered government differently (as was also promised). He is the same old same old I have come to expect in Cdn politics.

[Peter Triggs]

Re: Re: CDN Politics - Liberal Leadership race

Originally posted by Flubber

3. his taxing income trusts-- I would never have expected to take the principled approach on this issue even at the expense of breaking a campaign promise. However its something that needed to be done and it was actually handled well.

I'm a conservative but Flaherty screwed this up, royally. Telus and BCE had to apply to have their tax status changed from that of being a corporation to that of being an income trust and all the government had to do was just say "No". They didn't need to use a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Cyclotron
Ignatieff's speech was fascinating to me in its treatment of my country. I always want to see more of how the US is discussed in the political discourse of other countries.

Okay, sorry for the derail, continue in Canadian-ness.

Ignatieff is from your country.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I tell you right here, right now, that poll is bunk.

No way, no how would a majority of Albertans be in favour of an ex NDP premeir of Ontario who ****ed things up royally as the PM in waiting.

It appears the poll was by region, not province. Albertans will vote Conservative no doubt.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Oh, and Harper doesn't need urban Ontario. He didn't need Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver last time. As long as things hold in Quebec, urban Ontario can kiss its influence goodbye.

They haven't held in Quebec. Conservative support has evaporated in the province.

[Richelieu]

I heard on the radio this AM that the conservatives put out some communique thanking whoever is going to be elected leader of the Libs for keeping Justin Trudeau's chair warm.