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    Who Really Cares?
    Debunking mythology.

    By Thomas Sowell

    More frightening than any particular beliefs or policies is an utter lack of any sense of a need to test those beliefs and policies against hard evidence. Mistakes can be corrected by those who pay attention to facts but dogmatism will not be corrected by those who are wedded to a vision.

    One of the most pervasive political visions of our time is the vision of liberals as compassionate and conservatives as less caring. It is liberals who advocate "forgiveness" of loans to third-world countries, a "living wage" for the poor and a "safety net" for all.

    But these are all government policies — not individual acts of compassion — and the actual empirical consequences of such policies are of remarkably little interest to those who advocate them. Depending on what those consequences are, there may be good reasons to oppose them, so being for or against these policies may tell us nothing about who is compassionate or caring and who is not.

    A new book, titled Who Really Cares by Arthur C. Brooks examines the actual behavior of liberals and conservatives when it comes to donating their own time, money, or blood for the benefit of others. It is remarkable that beliefs on this subject should have become conventional, if not set in concrete, for decades before anyone bothered to check these beliefs against facts.

    What are those facts?

    People who identify themselves as conservatives donate money to charity more often than people who identify themselves as liberals. They donate more money and a higher percentage of their incomes.

    It is not that conservatives have more money. Liberal families average 6 percent higher incomes than conservative families.

    You may recall a flap during the 2000 election campaign when the fact came out that Al Gore donated a smaller percentage of his income to charity than the national average. That was perfectly consistent with his liberalism.

    So is the fact that most of the states that voted for John Kerry during the 2004 election donated a lower percentage of their incomes to charity than the states that voted for George W. Bush.

    Conservatives not only donate more money to charity than liberals do, conservatives volunteer more time as well. More conservatives than liberals also donate blood.

    According to Professor Brooks: "If liberals and moderates gave blood at the same rate as conservatives, the blood supply of the United States would jump about 45 percent."

    Professor Brooks admits that the facts he uncovered were the opposite of what he expected to find — so much so that he went back and checked these facts again, to make sure there was no mistake.

    What is the reason why some people are liberals and others are conservatives, if it is not that liberals are more compassionate?

    Fundamental differences in ideology go back to fundamental assumptions about human nature. Based on one set of assumptions, it makes perfect sense to be a liberal. Based on a different set of assumptions, it makes perfect sense to be a conservative.

    The two visions are not completely symmetrical, however. For at least two centuries, the vision of the left has included a belief that those with that vision are morally superior, more caring and more compassionate.

    While both sides argue that their opponents are mistaken, those on the left have declared their opponents to be not merely in error but morally flawed as well. So the idea that liberals are more caring and compassionate goes with the territory, whether or not it fits the facts.

    Those on the left proclaimed their moral superiority in the 18th century and they continue to proclaim it in the 21st century. What is remarkable is how long it took for anyone to put that belief to the test — and how completely it failed that test.

    The two visions are different in another way. The vision of the left exalts the young especially as idealists while the more conservative vision warns against the narrowness and shallowness of the inexperienced. This study found young liberals to make the least charitable contributions of all, whether in money, time or blood. Idealism in words is not idealism in deeds.

    — Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University.

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    The two visions are different in another way. The vision of the left exalts the young especially as idealists while the more conservative vision warns against the narrowness and shallowness of the inexperienced. This study found young liberals to make the least charitable contributions of all, whether in money, time or blood. Idealism in words is not idealism in deeds.
    What's your opinion of this quote, Ozzy?
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    • #3
      People who identify themselves as conservatives donate money to charity more often than people who identify themselves as liberals. They donate more money and a higher percentage of their incomes.
      One possible reason for this is that if you're a liberal you think that the appropriate way to handle such things is via the government (taxes), whereas if you're a conservative you likely feel that's the wrong way and instead think individual charitable donation is the way to go... the outcomes seem to match the personal beliefs in that sense. If you're a liberal, you will support higher taxes and more wealth redistribution via social programs. If you're a conservative, you will oppose those, but give to charity. That makes sense to me.

      The two visions are not completely symmetrical, however. For at least two centuries, the vision of the left has included a belief that those with that vision are morally superior...
      As if the "right" doesn't think it's morally superior? Both groups think their way is better, and both groups call the other morally flawed. Please That part is just silly.

      I'm no fan of the class warrior rhetoric that the left often slips into, demonizing all conservatives as uncaring, money-hording brutes. At the same time, claiming that liberals are big fat hypocrits because they give less to charity seems disingenuous to me. The liberal will (generally) want to take care of the poor/sick/etc via the government and the conservative will want to leave that to charity.

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      • #4
        This is a retarded article.

        First, does the study mention to what kind of organizations the money and time goes? My bet is that a lot of it is diverted to craptastic churches, Catholic schools, Jehovas ringing at door bells, etc.

        Second, who said that piety has to go through charity? The guy completely ignores the collective effects of politics on social well-being.
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        • #5
          Because a charity is religious-based doesn't necessarily mean it's crap. The Salvation Army may be a bunch of loons, but my sense is they do good work.

          -Arrian
          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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          • #6
            Liberals like to donate other people's money to charity. How generous.
            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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            • #7

              The two visions are not completely symmetrical, however. For at least two centuries, the vision of the left has included a belief that those with that vision are morally superior, more caring and more compassionate.


              Well if you have a moral belief (any) it entails that you think it's better than others, otherwise you wouldn't have it would you? DUH
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              • #8
                But the conservatives live in a world where they pay more taxes than they think they should, but still give to charity.

                I actually know a lot of young, liberal volunteers. This study doesn't take into account everything, I wonder at how religion/culture/etc. accounts for things. I wouldn't be surprised if the above accounted for a good portion of the differences.

                JM
                (who has mostly talked, but is now trying to act)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Caligastia
                  Liberals like to donate other people's money to charity. How generous.
                  Pwn3d. Liberals make on average 6% more than conservatives yet they approve of higher taxes.
                  In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                  • #10
                    And what must be remembered is that a lot of those on the religious right are paying tithes to their churches. THe percentage at some churches are above the 10% that the word was derived from.
                    This raises the average. Some might argue that this isn't really a voluntary donation, but a membership fee.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                    • #11
                      An entire 6%?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Oncle Boris


                        Pwn3d. Liberals make on average 6% more than conservatives yet they approve of higher taxes.
                        Pwn3d. Taxes /= charity.
                        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Caligastia
                          Liberals like to donate other people's money to charity. How generous.
                          As noted in the article, liberals are generally more affluent than conservatives. Liberals support the progressive income tax system, which taxes richer people at a higher rate.

                          Thus, it's not like liberals are somehow exempt from the consequences of a tax increase, which I have to assume was the basis for your little quip about liberals "donating other people's money."

                          -Arrian
                          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            The two visions are different in another way. The vision of the left exalts the young especially as idealists while the more conservative vision warns against the narrowness and shallowness of the inexperienced. This study found young liberals to make the least charitable contributions of all, whether in money, time or blood. Idealism in words is not idealism in deeds.
                            What's your opinion of this quote, Ozzy?
                            I'd have to look over the study. But young people are most definitely poorer as a class than other age groups, the study didn't add the qualifier that income had been factored out as they did with liberals in general, so I can't necessarily say what the facts are here.

                            Also in question is what their definition of "young" is. 18-30? 11-18? Because I do know that youth volunteerism rates are higher than adults. (i don't know the political breakdown):

                            # Out of 13.3 million youth, 59.3% volunteer an average of 3.5 hours per week, versus 49% of the adult population volunteering an average of 4.2 hours. (Independent Sector/Gallup, 1996)
                            # 74.2% of high school seniors volunteered in 1998. (UCLA/Higher Education Research Institute Annual Freshmen Survey, 1999)
                            # 70% of young people ages 15-21 have participated in activities to help strengthen their community at some point in their lives. (Do Something/Princeton Survey Research, 1998
                            # Youth volunteering is up 12% over the last 10 years. (UCLA/Higher Education Research Institute Annual Freshmen Survey, 1999)
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                            • #15
                              I have never really heard of tithe being listed as above 10%. Some peopel give Tithe and Offerings, some just give Tithe, some just give Offerings (my primitive babtists friends don't beleive in Tithe...).

                              Even at my current church, which has gotten annoyingly pushy (I think they don't have enough money... the church building is really in a sorry state) they don't say that tithe is above 10%. Of course, in the SDA church, tithe goes to building schools/hospitals/etc and the funds to upkeep a church comes out of offering.

                              JM
                              (Most my life, I haven't given Tithe... SDAs, at least, don't check whether you give Tithe or Offering)
                              Jon Miller-
                              I AM.CANADIAN
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