Rumsfeld okayed abuses says former US army general

[Darius871]

I don't get it. What did Karpinski say in the OP that we haven't already known for two years?

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Besides, any of the 'real torture', so to speak, is outsourced to some of our less savoury 'allies'.

I was under the impression that only hardcore international terrorists have been worth the expense... just OOC what evidence do you have that rendition has been used for your day-to-day, meat-and-potatoes Iraqi insurgents?

[Drake Tungsten]

You'd have been an excellent political enforcer in the post-Stalin USSR

That's pretty funny coming from a French commie. You've got actual torturers on both sides of your family...

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
That's pretty funny coming from a French commie. You've got actual torturers on both sides of your family...

I've got more torturees than torturers however. Pre-1945 Europe ftw

And seriously, in the Post-Stalin era, harsh physical torture was more the exception than the norm. The use of extremely stressful situations (including sleep deprivation, drowining-simulacrums, and the like) in concentrationnary environments was favored. There was still physical torture, but it was the matter of lowbrow underlings. Sophisticated political enforcers prefered the lax librul methods...

[Drake Tungsten]

Sophisticated political enforcers prefered the lax librul methods...

Sophisticated, effective methods of coercion that aren't torture...

Torture...

The French...

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Who happens to have a vested interest in passing off her incompetence on someone else.

Sometimes, even when a person has an ulterior motive/interest in revealing information, it does not automatically prove that such information is false or lies.

[Kuciwalker]

Unless of course it's a scientist doing a global warming study funded by Big Oil

[RoboCon]

Hello there! I see you are discussing Rumsfeld. Perhaps I can be of assistance.

But since we enrolled in Desert Storm in 1991, Senator Wellstone's eulo-fiasco was the thread on CG about the opportunity to be fed up with the mods and move on to MZO. Nevemind the fact that he's a total bad-ass since 9-11 changed everything. I pay my taxes like a good citizen, but Draconian increases? It seems the liberals want to be beat any other way. The final insult of microphones to augment the fat-cat imposed
impotence. These are bright guys and they'll win - Jefferson made that clear in Fed Paper 14. #16 in the AP with a chance to go to the Orange Bowl? Never would have guessed it. Grobe for Coach of the Year.

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Torture...

The French...

When two wrongs make a right...

(I'm KIDDING Spiff!)

[Kuciwalker]

RoboCon

[Dinner]

Originally posted by RoboCon
Hello there! I see you are discussing Rumsfeld. Perhaps I can be of assistance.

But since we enrolled in Desert Storm in 1991, Senator Wellstone's eulo-fiasco was the thread on CG about the opportunity to be fed up with the mods and move on to MZO. Nevemind the fact that he's a total bad-ass since 9-11 changed everything. I pay my taxes like a good citizen, but Draconian increases? It seems the liberals want to be beat any other way. The final insult of microphones to augment the fat-cat imposed
impotence. These are bright guys and they'll win - Jefferson made that clear in Fed Paper 14. #16 in the AP with a chance to go to the Orange Bowl? Never would have guessed it. Grobe for Coach of the Year.

RoboCon is back!

[Arrian]

You can't stop him. You can only hope to contain him.

-Arrian

[Kuciwalker]

Why would we want to?

[Darius871]

Because he jumped the shark months ago.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
People who call things like prolonged standing, sleep deprivation and exposure to loud music "torture" are the ones who are trivializing the concept...

And I'm sure you could begin to understand sleep deprivation if anyone's ever woken you up in the middle of the night. Imagine every time you feel asleep, for days on end, someone woke you.

So youre ready to join the sleep lobby in protesting middle school start times? Wrong place at the wrong time, indeed.

http://www.sleepinfairfax.org/

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Darius871
Because he jumped the shark months ago.

QFT. Good to see Ned back, though

-Arrian