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  • #61
    got the guts to play for pride?
    The guts, not the knees. But when I was in HS a baseball teammate and I whooped damn near the entire JV basketball team in 2 on 2 games They were a bunch of hotshot black dudes intent on putting the smackdown on us white boys

    Why? Sweden's not exactly the only place where they've got differing legal status.
    True, but the differing legal status, where it does exist, still gives gov't the power to make our decisions. In the US we're gungho in our drug war and as a result many people in pain dont get the relief they need because the DEA keeps a watchful eye on the people who prescribe narcotics. Hell, we jail sick and dying people for using marijuana.

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    • #62
      Well, duh. Making our decisions is pretty much what governments do. It's what they're for.
      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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      • #63
        not according to our constitutional system, to paraphrase Thomas Jefferson - a wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall otherwise leave them free to pursue their interests.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Berzerker
          Damn right, whatever they want or need. Pain is a part of life? What does that mean? Dont try to relieve pain?
          Not by taking heroin when there are less dangerous pain killers to take, and don't take pain killers at all if you can stand it.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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          • #65
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            Last edited by ZEE; May 19, 2011, 07:29.
            Order of the Fly

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            • #66
              is that for the individual to decide or you? Will you let me know if the painkiller you are letting me use does the job?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Berzerker
                is that for the individual to decide or you? Will you let me know if the painkiller you are letting me use does the job?
                Why shouldn't society decide?
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                • #68
                  dont hide behind "society", you've decided. But to answer your question, it aint society feeling the pain. It aint society that dies when someone in alot of pain take their life because Kidicious decided they dont need those painkillers.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Berzerker
                    dont hide behind "society", you've decided. But to answer your question, it aint society feeling the pain. It aint society that dies when someone in alot of pain take their life because Kidicious decided they dont need those painkillers.
                    I think doctors have decided that they don't need heroin. Doctors don't generally like to be reduced to common drug dealers.
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                    • #70
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                      Last edited by ZEE; May 19, 2011, 07:30.
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                      • #71
                        I think doctors have decided that they don't need heroin. Doctors don't generally like to be reduced to common drug dealers.
                        Doctors are undermedicating patients in pain because the DEA can and will revoke their "license" to practice medicine. Yeah, Doc is no longer a common drug dealer if he leaves his patients in plenty of pain. It aint up to my doctor to inform me of how much pain I'm in, or what painkiller works best for me. Thats up to me, I'm the one in pain.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Berzerker


                          Doctors are undermedicating patients in pain because the DEA can and will revoke their "license" to practice medicine. Yeah, Doc is no longer a common drug dealer if he leaves his patients in plenty of pain. It aint up to my doctor to inform me of how much pain I'm in, or what painkiller works best for me. Thats up to me, I'm the one in pain.
                          Doctors can tell who is in pain and who is just addicted and wanting to get high. Indeed, many people are not in pain and say they need pain killers like morphine. I trust doctors.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                          • #73
                            Doctors can tell who is in pain and who is just addicted and wanting to get high.
                            Yeah, they're ****ing mindreaders. And they aren't free to make those evaluations, they have the DEA looking over their backs.

                            Indeed, many people are not in pain and say they need pain killers like morphine. I trust doctors.
                            Can we sue you for malpractice if they screw up? No, then keep your nose out of other people's business.

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                            • #74
                              Berz, if you are arging that the drug addicted patients are going to make a better decision than a doctor or even the govt regulatory agency I think you are going to have a very bad argument. If you are just trying to nag me about not accepting your libertarian moral code/ideology then you are waisting your time.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                              • #75
                                I think its option 2 Kid.

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                                Last edited by Spec; April 4, 2007, 15:48.
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