Indepedence for Quebeckers!!

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
As for the OP, Harper's comments do not matter. The real problem is that Quebec hasn't signed Canada's constitution. Recognizing Quebec as a nation is peanuts compared to Meech or Charlottetown, so Harper is just pissing off both Anglo nationalists and Quebec separatists with an half assed declaration.

I see this as an opportunity. It will very probably be swept under the rug but we're missing a chance to finally put this to rest, one way or another.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Thanks MarkG for resurrecting this old pretext for a trollfest

That too.

[Harry Tuttle]

God I hate the Quebecois...

[CrONoS]

Nope: It's Québécois!

[Harry Tuttle]

Well gee, why don't they add in some backward p's and q's while they're at it.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Richelieu


Quebec hasn't signed the Canadian Constitution. You call that a non-story?

Bad troll bad troll.

Quebec's place within the Canadian state is a never-ending story. I just don't see that much in Harper's comments

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Flubber
Bad troll bad troll.

Quebec's place within the Canadian state is a never-ending story. I just don't see that much in Harper's comments

The Canadian state hasn't been able to constitute itself in a way that fully includes the members of its biggest minority - formerly known as one of its founding people - comprising about 24% of its population. That says a lot about the Canadian state.

[Spiffor]

Vive le Québec libre

[Richelieu]

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Richelieu


I see this as an opportunity. It will very probably be swept under the rug but we're missing a chance to finally put this to rest, one way or another.

But to a separatist this is only "finally" put to bed with secession. If there were 10 referenda to stay in Canada, they would not stop BUT if the secession side won ONCE that would be the final determination.

There is part of me that wished that there was a way to view the world as it would be in 10 years if Quebec actually did separate. There is part of me that thinks that Quebec would find itself far worse off while the remainder of Canada would do just fine.

Heck if just a fraction of the transfers to Quebec were spread among the other have-not provinces, that would go a long way in helping them out

[Sandman]

Nationalism: always a waste of time.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Richelieu


Is there a word in english for willful ignorance?

Or it could be that in English people from Quebec are called Quebeckers. Whine all you want that they are not calling them by their French name but that does not mean the BBC was incorrect in its English usage.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Asher
If they're their own nation, they shouldn't be receiving our foreign aid.

SHUT UP! Your job is to subsidize them so they can continue to whine about how cruel you are.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Flubber
THis is one of those "non-story" stories. Like if they ask a politician if they beat their wife so that the headline can be that "Politician Denies beating wife".

Here, separatist politicians will periodically bring motions hoping to trip up federalist politicians in an attempt to re-ignite the issue. Canada is often talked about as having origins in the "union of two nations" or similar phrasing. I think Harper's comments merely reflect that.

Personally, if I was a native American I'd be pissed off about the discription of Canada being a union of two nations. I don't think the natives fall under the catagory of Brit/Irish or French nor do millions of other white Canadians whose ancestors came from other parts of Europe nor for Asian-Canadians.

I guess you could break everyone down by the language they speak but that seems crude. Better to just call everyone Canadian and avoid the whole origin BS.

[Fake Boris]

I guess it's like the issue of illegal immigrants, call everyone an American and avoid the whole origin BS?