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[Jon Miller]

So have acts in the name of every other idea.. from communism to capitalism and even democracy.

JM

[Dinner]

Or for Islam for that matter. The vast majority of terrorist attacks commited in the world these days are done in the name of Islam.

[Krill]

I want a +1

[malsa]

Oerdin,
Your post shows a complete and dangerous lack of comprehension. Islam is a religion, not a terrorist group. The media classifies Muslims as "terrorists," "highjackers" and "kidnappers." So why would anyone even look at Islam? Why are so many priests and preachers going to Islam?

David Karesh was a Christian, shall we ban all Christian momentous?
When you compare all of Islam to these terrorists, you essentially say every Sunday clothed bible reading Christian is a Branch Dividian fundamentalist. The linking of such actions to Islam or the Qur’an is incorrect. Rather, such inhumane actions clearly contradict the teachings of Islam - just as the bombing at Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh and the killings that occurred at Abraham Mosque, Hebron - Philistine by Dr. Baruch Goldstein clearly contradict the teachings of Christianity and Judaism, respectively.



I found this in one of the Islamic sites:
The Holy Quran

Surah 5.AL-Amaidah


[5:32] Whoever kills a soul, unless for a soul, or for corruption done in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one; it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.


[5:82] Strongest among men in enmity to the Believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.

[5:83] And when they listen to the revelation received by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognize the truth: they pray: "Our Lord! We believe; write us down among the witnesses.

Surah 60. Al-Mumtahana

[60:8] - Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just..

[60:9] - Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong..

[Nubclear]

Congratulations!

The Koran is just as contradictory, bloody, violent, and reprehensible as (wait for it) The Holy Bible!

Religion
Abrahamic religions

[Wernazuma III]

Hi malsa.
I first thought too you're a DL or a bot, but I hope to continue seeing you on the forum.
While I do not agree with most of what I skimmed through reading, this can be an interesting debate (there's a good score of people here with whom I wholeheartedly agree to disagree). Lamentably, I don't have time now for an argument.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by malsa
Oerdin,
Your post shows a complete and dangerous lack of comprehension. Islam is a religion, not a terrorist group. The media classifies Muslims as "terrorists," "highjackers" and "kidnappers." So why would anyone even look at Islam? Why are so many priests and preachers going to Islam?

David Karesh was a Christian, shall we ban all Christian momentous?
When you compare all of Islam to these terrorists, you essentially say every Sunday clothed bible reading Christian is a Branch Dividian fundamentalist.

Christianity is also a religion of murder and terror. Shrug. All religions are evil. Except perhaps Satanism.

The linking of such actions to Islam or the Qur’an is incorrect. Rather, such inhumane actions clearly contradict the teachings of Islam - just as the bombing at Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh and the killings that occurred at Abraham Mosque, Hebron - Philistine by Dr. Baruch Goldstein clearly contradict the teachings of Christianity and Judaism, respectively.

Really? Thanks for enlightening me. You know, seeing all these people cheering on the streets all over the islamic world after each terrorist attack made me think they would actually approve them.

It's probably the fault of the TV stations though. They likely just didn't show the much greater demonstrations condemning the murderous attacks. Damn them. They're all Christians, there you have it.

Sarcasm aside, it's like Arrian said. Get control over your lunatic fringe, and you will earn some sympathy.

[Pekka]

malsa, We are not racist but we just like to be comfortable with our posters here so maybe you can first of all let everyone knwo you are not a terrorist symphatizer? I don't believe you are but tell everyone else this.

Also, if you think Islam is better than Christianity, you should go away because we don't like your kind here..

:secretsmiley:

[malsa]

I really don’t like misunderstanding of my intentions in this post .It is not an assault on Christianity or any other religion. It is indispensable for me to look for the truth and study comparative religion because if I would like to know whether a religion is true or false, I should not depend on my emotions, feelings, or traditions. Rather, I should depend on my reason and intellect. When God sent the prophets, He supported them with miracles and evidences, which proved that they were truly prophets, send by God and that the religion they came with was true.

We cay say there are so many sects, cults, religions, philosophies, and movements in the world, all of which claim to be the right way or the only true path to God. How can one determine which one is correct or if, in fact, all are correct? The method by which the answer can be found is to clear away the superficial differences in the teachings of the various claimants to the ultimate truth, and identify the central object of worship to which they call, directly or indirectly. Can we either claim that all men are Gods or that specific men were God or that nature is God or that God is a figment of man's imagination.

It may be argued that all religions teach good things so why should it matter which one we follow. I made some searching and I couldn’t find a sharp answer but I found something interesting stated in the Koran:
Creation-worship is the greatest sin that man can commit because it contradicts the very purpose of his creation. Man was created to worship Allah alone, consequently, the worship of creation, which is the essence of idolatry, is the only unforgivable sin. One who dies in this state of idolatry has sealed his fate in the next life. This is not an opinion, but a revealed fact stated by Allah in his final revelation to man

"Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whom so ever He wishes"(Soorah An- Nisaa 4:48 and 116)

Buddha was a reformer who introduced a number of humanistic principles to the religion of India. He did not claim to be God nor did he suggest to his followers that he be an object of worship. Yet, today most Buddhists who are to be found outside of India have taken him to be God and prostrate to idols made in their perception of his likeness.

God revealed a holy book to Jesus called the Injeel, some parts of which may be still available in the teachings of God to Jesus in the New Testament. But this does not mean that the Bible we have today because it is not the original scriptures that were revealed by God. They underwent alterations, additions, and omissions. This was also said by the Committee charged with revising The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version). This Committee consisted of thirty-two scholars who served as members of the Committee. They secured the review and counsel of an Advisory Board of fifty representatives of the co-operating denominations.

The Committee said in the Preface to The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version), p. iv, “Sometimes it is evident that the text has suffered in transmission, but none of the versions provides a satisfactory restoration. Here we can only follow the best judgment of competent scholars as to the most probable reconstruction of the original text.

The Committee also said in the Preface, p. vii, Notes are added which indicate significant variations, additions, or omissions in the ancient authorities (Mt 9.34; Mk 3.16; 7.4; Lk 24.32, 51, etc.).

My question is do we believe in the information declared in the following sites or not:


THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS

http://sultan.org/articles/Jesus.html

Who Was Jesus According to Jesus?

http://www.islaminfo.com/new/jesus.asp

IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD?

http://www.jamaat.net/bible/Bible1-3.html

The Bible - A Closer Look!

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/bible/

The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus: a comparison

http://www.soundvision.com/Info/Jesus/inIslam.asp

Christ in Islam

http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-20479/Christ.htm

Mary & Jesus in Quran

http://www.islamworld.net/

Is Jesus the Same as God?

http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-20479/Samegod.htm

None of the Bible’s Writers Believed That Jesus is God

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10-1.htm

Jesus Will Descend at the End of Time

http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=77

Women in Christianity and Islam

http://www.jamiat.org.za/isinfo/wchristian.html

http://www.jamaat.net/letters.htm

The Scientific Miracles in the Holy Quran:

http://www.islampedia.com/ijaz/Html/Scientist_All/Index.htm

http://islamicity.com/science/

http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-1.htm

Islamic Contributions to Science: History

http://198.65.147.194/english/Science/2001/02/article12.shtml

ISLAMIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO SCIENCE

http://web.umr.edu/~msaumr/reference/articles/science/contribution.html

Islamic Contributions to Science and Math

http://www.netmuslims.com/info/contributions.html

Muslims and medical history

http://www.islamicmedicine.org/history.htm

[Nubclear]

You should join Eventis.

[Dis]

Islam

Christianity sucks, but at least christmas is a cool holiday.

[One_more_turn]

As it stands today, Islam is far worse than Christianity.

Why, because Christians are taking their religions less seriously.

Honestly, I think if Muslims do not change themselves there will be some nasty total civilization wars down the road.

[snoopy369]

Hmm.

Is this the new RoboCon, just a bit more verbose and without the cool bolding of text?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Dis
Islam

Christianity sucks, but at least christmas is a cool holiday.

Christmas
Winter holidays

[LordShiva]

WTF is Eventis?