Eating Disorders

[KrazyHorse]

I'm sick and tired of fat people complaining that the evil media makes fat people feel bad about themselves, leading to a supposed epidemic of eating disorders.

a) The gym at my university doesn't have scales in the locker rooms. I asked why not, and was told that it was because the school was trying to promote a "healthy body image". Thanks, but I'm trying to cut down to ~6% body fat from my current ~10%, and I'd sort of like an accurate way to measure as I go.

b) If anybody thinks that eating disorders are a bigger public health problem than fatasses then they're ****ing insane.

c) The biggest whiners about this type of **** are girls complaining that the "Hollywood" body image for women is "unrealistic". It's probably unrealistic if you eat half a pack of cookies every day and don't do any exercise, sure. But, if anything, Hollywood in the last 10 years has been worse about promoting a male ideal than a female. I just saw the new Bond film. Daniel Craig is a ****ing beast. The guy probably benches in the 300+ range. So ****ing what? I don't ****ing feel threatened because some dude getting paid 10 million dollars to make a film has bigger muscles than I do. I'm certainly not going to ask that my gym remove the weight room so that I won't feel bad about not lifting more. Or maybe I should ask that they remove the mirrors so that I can't see that I don't have as much muscle as James Bond.

[KrazyHorse]

Maybe the whiners would like it if we could define eating disorders so that anybody who ever eats less than they can possibly cram in there is afflicted.

Then we'd all be really healthy.

[Jon Miller]

That is what I have noticed about a lot of girls. They stay skinny by basically not eating, and avoid exercise like the plague. Of course it is hard to stay healthy when you aren't exercising.

And of course they don't stay not eating forever, which is the reason why they get larger later in life.

Now it is quite easy to have some fat on you if you are exercising. That relates to portion control. But I really think the problem is that people aren't exercising enough.

JM
(does the minimum but feels a lot better for it)

[Pekka]

Yeah, there might be few people with genuine problems of not being able to lose that weight because of genetics or what ever, but the VAST majority is lazy fat people who eat too much or eat wrong and don't do physical training.

If they say they do, they just simply lie. If they do, they are doing it wrong. And no miracle thing works, it's the oldest thing that works, proper nutrition, training and rest. Period. Anyone selling you anything else about this is selling you a fantasy that you pay for, because you are too lazy to do something about it.

These are facts of life. I don't think we should be bashing fat people in general, I don't see what the point is, but the ones who complain and make it someone elses fault, well we should eat those fatasses, so they don't proceed to consume all the food in the world.

[SlowwHand]

Eat until you're not hungry, not until you're full.

[KrazyHorse]

That's because most girls never learn to push themselves to the limit, and never learn to deal with pain.

By the time I was in my teens I had the ability to go past where it hurt, past the point where I had an almost irresistible urge to quit, to the point where my muscles actually stopped working.

You've got to learn to like a little bit of discomfort if you want to be in shape.

[Jon Miller]

or just be active for ~8 hours a day. But so many of us have desk jobs now that that isn't possible.

JM

[Flip McWho]

I've got a particularly good metabolism so I'm just gonna continue being lazy till I hit about 25. Though I'd like to build some muscle and actually have some stamina so I probably will discover motivation.

As for the thread I agree with what KH said.

[Nubclear]

Re: Eating Disorders

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

c) The biggest whiners about this type of **** are girls complaining that the "Hollywood" body image for women is "unrealistic". It's probably unrealistic if you eat half a pack of cookies every day and don't do any exercise, sure. But, if anything, Hollywood in the last 10 years has been worse about promoting a male ideal than a female

No, its just that the treatment of the genders is becoming more equal

[KrazyHorse]

Horse****.

A man who has pectorals the size of my head has done a lot more work to get them than has a girl in order to get down to 110 pounds.

I could easily lose 2 pounds a week for the next 4 months and get myself skinnier than most Hollywood actresses.

[Nubclear]

Both are extremely unhealthy body images that oppress both genders. Whether one is "easier" to achieve than the other is quite irrelevant.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Both are extremely unhealthy body images that oppress both genders. Whether one is "easier" to achieve than the other is quite irrelevant.

a) How do you know they're unhealthy? While there are a number of unhealthily thin actresses, most are not underweight. And what the **** makes having muscle unhealthy?

b) Give me a break. Oppression my ass.

c) No, my whole point is that one is more "unrealistic" than the other.

Skinny is achievable in a much shorter timeframe in a much simpler manner than is muscly.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


a) How do you know they're unhealthy? While there are a number of unhealthily thin actresses, most are not underweight. And what the **** makes having muscle unhealthy?

Overexertion, improper technique (such as, for instance, attempting to do too much too soon), etc...especially if a person simply does not have the bodytype to become over-muscly, fixing the "ideal body" to Mr. Bond could indeed be quite healthy.
Furthermore, the mental health of the affected persons are most certainly affected, as they endure stress and pressures to conform to what they percieve as the proper gender role.

b) Give me a break. Oppression my ass.

Tying a persons mental health and self-acceptance to some extremely unhealthy and/or unobtainable image of what it means to be a certain gender is most certainly oppression.

c) No, my whole point is that one is more "unrealistic" than the other.

And mine is that they are both harmful and should be abandoned. Perhaps we do not clash. Let me ask you: Would you agree that the image of the "ideal woman" that Hollywood broadcasts is unhealthy?

[KrazyHorse]

Does your husband know you post here?

[Nubclear]

I don't know. Do you, Joncha?