You've got it all wrong, Ned. Clearly the problem isn't that Europeans today look like Nazis back then, but that Europeans today look like Europeans back then. Face it: Europeans are always evil commie hitler fascist subhumans, no matter what generation.
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Originally posted by Heresson
Yeah, criticisement of Israel and not being pleased with it bullying others = antisemitism."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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Lorizel, the way I see it is that commies will always be commies, out to destroy freedom and capitalism. But Europeans do seem to like NAZISM, as they embrace everything about the Third Reich (except its need to restore its military honor) even while denouncing the NAZI's as barbaric and inhuman.
Odin, once again, National Socialism does seem to be leftist, as the Europeans today seem lefist to most. Had WWII not started or ended with a peace deal in October 1939 based on Hitler's offer, and had elections been held in 1940 and the NAZI's tossed out, which just might have happened, would all the social reforms introduced by the NAZI's been suddenly deemed "progressive" instead of "barbaric" because the government of Germany was now liberal?http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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That's cause he's been drinking. Alcohol makes everything better .“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yes, I was about to make the point that Ned pulled off the very, very, very rare Godwin in the opening post of the thread.I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka
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Originally posted by korn469
I have a question about Godwin's Law since people reference it so often on apolyton. Is Godwin's Law basically that once a person starts to trivialize the Nazi atrocities/totalitarianism by suggesting that a person/group/government that has little in common with Nazis is just as bad or worse has just lost the debate? Kind of like the **** you rule. If you tell somebody **** you or **** off or use the f bomb as your argument you've lost.
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
Godwin's Law does not dispute whether, in a particular instance, a reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be apt. It is precisely because such a reference or comparison may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin argues in his book, Cyber Rights: Defending Free Speech in the Digital Age, that overuse of the Hitler/Nazi comparison should be avoided, as it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.
from WikiI'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka
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While comparing one to the NAZI's and/or Hitler is normally like resorting to violence instead of persuasion, one of my basic points here is that Europe here seems to be afflicted by its own history so much that it cannot even discuss National Socialism in a serious manner.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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Originally posted by Ned
While comparing one to the NAZI's and/or Hitler is normally like resorting to violence instead of persuasion, one of my basic points here is that Europe here seems to be afflicted by its own history so much that it cannot even discuss National Socialism in a serious manner.
The Nazis are the boogeyman that everyone trots out for one thing or another. Americans do it at least as much as Europeans, probably more.I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka
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It is because defeating the Nazi's was our one great success of the 20th century. And we can all (Basically) agree on that. Nowhere else, even on communism, do we all agree so well.
JMJon Miller-
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GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
There ought to be a word for taking a post by Ned, or one of our other favorite and INSIGHTFUL posters, and responding to it seriously, in such a way that any counter is seen as defending said INSIGHTFUL poster, and threadjacking an INSIGHTFUL thread such as this, to a standard flamewar."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis
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It seems to me that the article didn't really say much. The paper states that withdrawal of care might be appropriate in some cases, but the article doesn't clarify what criteria would be used. Further more while cost is mentioned as a possible factor the Right Rev'd contradicts himself by stating that great care must be taken when even considering cost, then he turns around and suggests that justice demands that the extra cost of caring for a deformed baby should be taken into consideration when deciding upon the continuation of care. IMHO either the reviewer didn't do a very good job of summarizing the paper or the paper's conclusions are so vague as to be nearly useless."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
It is because defeating the Nazi's was our one great success of the 20th century. And we can all (Basically) agree on that. Nowhere else, even on communism, do we all agree so well.
JM
At the time WWII began, ethnic cleansing and the other justifications for the war did not exist. There was no really good reason for that war when viewed ab initio. The war crimes trials, in a way, provided us a post hoc justification for our participation in WWII.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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