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  • #16
    Originally posted by LordShiva


    Some of them went east instead
    Don't tell Aneeshm.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

      The huns really screwed up a lot of people. Is it true that they were the remnants of the empire of Hsing-nu?
      As far as I know, yes.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Wycoff


        They didn't all go west. Some, like the Aryans and the Tocharians, went east. Others, like the Hittites, went south
        Kurds are Indo-European and so are Persians.
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        • #19
          The original Huns came and went. The invaded Europe, reached as far as Rome, and eventually left. Ostensibly they went "home," wherever that was. The current inhabitants of Hungary are Magyars, who came later. Some historians think the original Huns' resettled in what became the path of Ghengis Khan's conquest, refused to surrender, and had their cities annihilated much like Kiev.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Flip McWho
            The slavs moved into the region as the area was abandoned by the germans moving westward and the Lombards. Apparently before this they inhabited the region from Upper Vistula to the Carpathians and to the Dneiper.



            Source:
            Henri Pirenne, A History of Europe.
            They were part of the reason why the Germans moved West.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Heresson
              Slavs did not origin from Hungarian plain. In the Roman times, peoples living there were iranian. Late IV century chronicle of Ammianus Marcellinus gives an interesting details of a treacherous attack of local people on emperor Constantine saying that they rushed at him crying out "Marha marha". That means "death" in persian (Marg bar Esroil! Marg bar Emriko!)...
              Romans do not mention Slavs, at least over Donau, until V century or VI, I do not recall. Yet, there's an interesting story of X or XI century (I don't recall) Kievan historian who says that Poles originated from over Donau, but yet Wlachs were making harm to them, so they moved here.
              Wlachs is a name for Latin-speaking people, especially Romanians and Italians, Italy's name in polish is Wlochy, and southern Romania = Woloszczyzna, which used to be the name of Moldavia in polish as well, until it switched names with its southern counterpart).
              It is EXTREMLY interesting. Because Romanians do not, as they say, origin from Dacia. Not at all. they are remains of Roman settlers from southern banks of Donau, from Illyricum and Thrace. Were Poles inhabiting modern-day Romania before Romanians, pushed out from thrace by other Slavs, forced them north?
              Or did Nestor mean Romans?
              There's a story in Ammianus or some other late-antiquity historians whose work I've read about Sarmatians that some tribe of Sarmatians was enslaved by other. The emperor freed it, yet it attacked RE later on, so Romans forced it to move somewhere far away in the north.

              So you mean that Poles/slavs replaced the Dacians and were consequently replaced by modern Romanians. That would mean Romanians are not clean blooded Dacians? I'm shocked.
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              • #22
                We know well that our dear Romanian "Dacians" came from the other side of Donau...
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                  They were part of the reason why the Germans moved West.
                  Who in turn pushed the Angles and Saxons into Britain, perhaps. There was a lot of population movement in around the 6th/7th century.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cort Haus


                    Who in turn pushed the Angles and Saxons into Britain, perhaps. There was a lot of population movement in around the 6th/7th century.

                    I think seperating "Germans" from Angles and Saxons at that time is illusionary.
                    "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                    "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                    • #25
                      Now, now, Pekka, it's probably not a good idea to go around calling a racial group subhuman

                      Best edit that before the mods see it
                      THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                      AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                      AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                      DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                      • #26
                        Slavs









                        THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                        AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                        AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                        DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                        • #27
                          Babes

                          I can get more pics if you want
                          THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                          AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                          AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                          DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                          • #28
                            Pekka: As you're well aware, hate-speech of any sort is not tolerated here, especially when it's racially motivated. Stop it. One more post referring to any race as subhuman and you'll be on holiday until the new year.

                            I've deleted your hate-speech posts. I don't want to have to do it again. If you have any problem with this, I suggest you PM me and don't derail this thread.
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                            • #29
                              I don't have a problem with people mixing hate-speech and jokes.

                              Don't worry, I won't be posting to this thread anymore. I just wanted to defend myself, since you are saying I posted hate-speech, which I didn't. Even though you requested PM if I have a problem with this, please do consider that I don't have a problem with you deleting my posts. I am just defending myself against a statement where I make hate-speech. And even that discussion is done with if it's up to me, so ... let's continue the thread as usual.
                              Last edited by Pekka; December 22, 2006, 16:29.
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                              • #30
                                Slavic Babe Power deleted Pekka's posts


                                Originally posted by Drogue
                                I've deleted your hate-speech posts.
                                Oh, it was you.
                                THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                                AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                                AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                                DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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