So... Does Anyone Remember Yasser Arafat?

[Eli]

I didnt know you subscribe to the Great Man theory, Che. Are you sure you're a commie?

[chequita guevara]

I don't dismiss the effect and influence that "great men" can have on history. But history is still made by ordinary people. It's clear that Arafat was a galvanizing force for the Palestinian people in the way that no one had been before and no one yet has been.

[MRT144]

yasser who?

[notyoueither]

yessir imarat

[Winston]

Yessir Icanboogie <- Not anymore!

I still think he died of aids, brought on by all the unprotected boogieng over the years.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
You blame Arafat for your own violence and murder still? You people are monsters.

I love you dude.
Really. You're one of my favourite people on this forum.

But you're clueless.
Seriously, its a shame seeing a great mind, usually capable of critical thinking, go to waste.

You haven't got a clue about middle east politics and you never will, as long as you live in your dream world, dictated by commie literature and two cent "post-colonialist" bullsh*t analysis.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov


I love you dude.
Really. You're one of my favourite people on this forum.

who else?

which political movement do You like better: Fatah or Hamas?

[Whoha]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Arafat is the main reason they have anything at all. If it weren't for Palestinian resistance, they'd have been ethnically cleansed a generation again and Israel would have annexed the territories.

how many divisions did arafat bring to forcibly stop the Israelis from doing the above?

[Straybow]

I used to think that if it weren't for Arafat the Palestinians could've been building roads and schools and hospitals in the West Bank and getting themselves a life instead of throwing their lives away. But seeing Islamism spread like fire through dry tinder I realize it was naive to think so. The majority really do want war more than peace, thinking that somehow Israel will get the worse of it rather than themselves.

[Impaler[WrG]]

I like the Asimov "Pychohistory" aproatch, individuals are untimatly trivial to the vast spans of time and socio-economic factors which truly determin history, even whole empires are ultimatly blips on the radar.

As for Arafat, though it would seem inconcivable before his death the Palistinians now actualy have an even worse leadership. Amazing

[Spiffor]

Re: So... Does Anyone Remember Yasser Arafat?

The Palestinians remember him, apparently. He's still a national hero there.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
I like the Asimov "Pychohistory" aproatch, individuals are untimatly trivial to the vast spans of time and socio-economic factors which truly determin history, even whole empires are ultimatly blips on the radar.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Straybow
But seeing Islamism spread like fire through dry tinder I realize it was naive to think so. The majority really do want war more than peace, thinking that somehow Israel will get the worse of it rather than themselves.

Islamism was the alternative to Arafat's socialist-nationalist politics. Islamism is the result of the failure of people like Arafat to succeed in the independence struggle with the Israelis. Israel succeeded in marginalizing him, to everyone's detriment.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
I like the Asimov "Pychohistory" aproatch, individuals are untimatly trivial to the vast spans of time and socio-economic factors which truly determin history, even whole empires are ultimatly blips on the radar.

As for Arafat, though it would seem inconcivable before his death the Palistinians now actualy have an even worse leadership. Amazing

except that later on he had individuals throwing the plan/restoring it . and this on a galactic scale, on a regional level individual persons can be quite influential.

[Dinner]

Re: Re: So... Does Anyone Remember Yasser Arafat?

Originally posted by Spiffor
The Palestinians remember him, apparently. He's still a national hero there.

Yes, but those are the idiots who think the Jews all stayed home on 9/11 and the CIA flew the planes into the buildings.